It’s Festivus!
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November 12, 2020 at 4:50 pm #1106769
Greenbelt
ParticipantI thought last year’s points model was great. But I’m pretty easy to please regardless. Looking forward to 2021. Really looking forward to 2021… -Jeff
November 12, 2020 at 6:49 pm #1106770bmillah
ParticipantI was super-happy to see the FS21 club pop-up on Strava yesterday, and now even more excited for January 1st, 2021 to arrive.
I really enjoyed the new points system last year, but wouldn’t be disappointed if we slightly lowered the threshold from 10 miles to 7 (or even 5) miles before counting each additional mile as one point. It was incredibly difficult to catch up if you missed a ride.
I thought team sizes were fine but was disappointed when two of our teammates stopped participating after the first week or so. Also, I really enjoyed the Parkfinder last year, would be fun to incorporate something like that again.
Also, it’ll be interesting to see if there are more or fewer willing to play this year. There are far more WFH’ers than commuters for sure, and despite being at home I somehow have less time in my day to get out for a ride. :confused:
November 12, 2020 at 7:51 pm #1106772awitt
ParticipantI liked the point system last year and the team size was fine. I suggest changing as little as possible from last year given how much of the rest of our lives has changed. I especially want to avoid changes that would require changing the back end so we minimize the work for obscurerichard. Let him reserve his energy for his family and his bicycle.
November 12, 2020 at 10:30 pm #1106774epilsk
ParticipantPersonally, I liked the points system last year. The extra bonus points got me riding a bit more on days i might have slacked off. That said, I tend to agree with bmilah that lowering the bonus level to 5 miles or so is worth considering. In addition to lowering the “penalty” for missing a day or riding only a few miles, I think it would tend to encourage people to get out for even a short ride during a time when many (most?) folks are not truly commuting.
As for teams, I would consider organizing teams based more on location than historic mileage to make it easier for meetups, is that is safe/healthy, sharing routes, and facilitating ride-bys.
My two cents. I will happily participate whatever the rules the Cabal imposes.
November 13, 2020 at 6:53 pm #1106777smb9600
ParticipantI also liked the point system last year! I echo teams based on location to make it easier for folks to get together for rides/gatherings if they wanted. It may also be helpful to allow participants to chose if they would like to be on a team that will host safe/socially distant rides/gatherings or not (if those are still allowed this winter!) Additionally, team size may want to be capped at 8-10 in case the sizes of group gathering are limited again.
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November 16, 2020 at 5:24 am #1106783chris_s
Participantawitt;202611 wrote:i suggest changing as little as possible from last year given how much of the rest of our lives has changed. I especially want to avoid changes that would require changing the back end so we minimize the work for obscurerichard. Let him reserve his energy for his family and his bicycle.this ^^^^^^^^^
November 16, 2020 at 5:30 pm #1106785AliasXIII
ParticipantI too really liked the point system from last year!
November 16, 2020 at 11:01 pm #1106787Making the Push
ParticipantSo impressed with the effort it takes to make FS; thanks ya’ll. I like the 2020 scoring. I like the penalty for skipping a day. Most of the pointless prize games seem like they will be safe and fine to do this year. Populating team rosters based on riders’ proximity and not mileage might make it easier to pull off some responsible team meet ups, if people are comfortable with that. I’m stoked to shred all winter!
November 17, 2020 at 4:09 pm #1106790drevil
ParticipantI agree the point system is fine.
Curious: how difficult is it to add wacky stats? Like during sign up people can choose the following of how they plan to ride most often during FS:
- Clipless or Flat pedal
- Drop bar or Straight bar
- Slicks or Knobbies
- Fender or Fenderless
- Bar mitts or Gloves
- ROYGBIV or Black/White/Silver colored bike
- Rear view mirror or Neck twist
Then as the miles start coming in, have charts that show stats for Team Clipless vs Team Flats, etc.
This way, it ups my chances of being on at least one winning team — Go Team Neck Twist!
(I’m kidding, but I just thought this was a funny idea if it isn’t too difficult to implement.)
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November 18, 2020 at 2:32 am #1106795secstate
ParticipantI love your ideas but can’t stop admiring that fat bike rider
November 18, 2020 at 7:32 am #1106796cvcalhoun
Participant@drevil 202633 wrote:
I agree the point system is fine.
Curious: how difficult is it to add wacky stats? Like during sign up people can choose the following of how they plan to ride most often during FS:
- Clipless or Flat pedal
- Drop bar or Straight bar
- Slicks or Knobbies
- Fender or Fenderless
- Bar mitts or Gloves
- ROYGBIV or Black/White/Silver colored bike
- Rear view mirror or Neck twist
Then as the miles start coming in, have charts that show stats for Team Clipless vs Team Flats, etc.
This way, it ups my chances of being on at least one winning team — Go Team Neck Twist!
(I’m kidding, but I just thought this was a funny idea if it isn’t too difficult to implement.)
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I don’t mind adding the wacky sign-ups to the registration form, but I suspect it would complicate obscurerichard’s job on the back end. I’d take this one up with him directly.
November 18, 2020 at 4:50 pm #1106799drevil
Participant@secstate 202638 wrote:
I love your ideas but can’t stop admiring that fat bike rider
I stole it from this article
https://www.bicycling.com/racing/a20035800/this-guy-crushed-ironman-texas-on-a-fat-bike/
November 18, 2020 at 10:27 pm #1106803merlin
Participant@drevil 202633 wrote:
Curious: how difficult is it to add wacky stats? Like during sign up people can choose the following of how they plan to ride most often during FS:
- Clipless or Flat pedal
- Drop bar or Straight bar
- Slicks or Knobbies
- Fender or Fenderless
- Bar mitts or Gloves
- ROYGBIV or Black/White/Silver colored bike
- Rear view mirror or Neck twist
What does your visualisation look like? Napkin sketch of the stats page.
November 19, 2020 at 3:27 am #1106804merlin
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November 19, 2020 at 3:32 am #1106805merlin
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