Is NPS planning to plow the MVT this winter?

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  • #1061936
    Tim Kelley
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    Discussed here: http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?11335-December-2016-Road-and-Trail-Conditions

    NPS has a meeting with WABA and other concerned folks at the BikeArlington offices tomorrow night where they have said that they have a big announcement. We expect it will be snow clearing related.

    #1061966
    Harry Meatmotor
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    tim kelley;150639 wrote:
    yuge announcement.

    fify.

    #1062120
    kevinal
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    When you say that the Pentagon does “a VERY good job of clearing” the snow, does that mean that you can ride a bike on the cleared paths? I’ve also noticed the orange poles along the bike paths and assumed that someone has a plan to keep them clear this year. However, I wonder whether it’s really possible to remove ice and snow off a bike path well enough to make for a reasonably comfortable and worry-free ride. I remember trying to commute a time or two last year when the MVT was more or less cleared, and both times I turned back home; between the hidden ice and the patches of uncleared snow, the ride was jarring, treacherous, and not worth the effort.

    #1062122
    peterw_diy
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    @Tim Kelley 150639 wrote:

    Discussed here: http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?11335-December-2016-Road-and-Trail-Conditions

    NPS has a meeting with WABA and other concerned folks at the BikeArlington offices tomorrow night where they have said that they have a big announcement. We expect it will be snow clearing related.

    So, what was the announcement?

    #1062124
    LeprosyStudyGroup
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    @kevinal 150835 wrote:

    When you say that the Pentagon does “a VERY good job of clearing” the snow, does that mean that you can ride a bike on the cleared paths? I’ve also noticed the orange poles along the bike paths and assumed that someone has a plan to keep them clear this year. However, I wonder whether it’s really possible to remove ice and snow off a bike path well enough to make for a reasonably comfortable and worry-free ride. I remember trying to commute a time or two last year when the MVT was more or less cleared, and both times I turned back home; between the hidden ice and the patches of uncleared snow, the ride was jarring, treacherous, and not worth the effort.

    The pentagon grounds crew does an incredible job keeping the trail on its border along 27 plowed and salted. Sometimes there’s so much salt down it’s like riding on loose gravel which is ironically a bit sketchy in itself.
    The problem is that their clearing efforts end immediately after the dangerous access road entrance crossings connecting 27 to the north parking lot, leaving all connections between there and the MVT/memorial bridge as untamed wildlands. And then the road snow plows come through and push/dump ice chunks and road debris all over the previously cleared sidewalks and bridge pathways adjacent to the road anyways. I spent a couple years just walking my bike over the worst patches but I don’t bother going that way anymore.

    #1062136
    CaseyKane50
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    @peterw_diy 150837 wrote:

    So, what was the announcement?

    Meeting was postponed until January.

    #1062137
    dbb
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    @peterw_diy 150837 wrote:

    So, what was the announcement?

    Meeting was postponed by the NPS. New date TBA. Stay tuned.

    #1062152
    mstone
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    @CaseyKane50 150851 wrote:

    Meeting was postponed until January.

    Nice. A couple more postponements and they can kick the can to next winter.

    #1062848
    kingman762
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    Any updates or announcements?

    #1064097
    Raymo853
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    Not to make you feel bad, but here in Loveland the bike paths are plowed and the streets are not. I love the not plowing or salting streets since I love riding on fresh snow.

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    #1064138
    dasgeh
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    @kevinal 150835 wrote:

    However, I wonder whether it’s really possible to remove ice and snow off a bike path well enough to make for a reasonably comfortable and worry-free ride. I remember trying to commute a time or two last year when the MVT was more or less cleared, and both times I turned back home; between the hidden ice and the patches of uncleared snow, the ride was jarring, treacherous, and not worth the effort.

    Arlington has been treating and clearing its* priority trails for a few years now. Yes, it is indeed possible. The MVT has not been cleared by human power, so you must have picked days where Mother Nature cleared some, but not all of the trail.

    *Arlington’s priority trails are the Custis (which includes the W&OD from where the rest of the Custis peels off to the County line), Four Mile Run, Bluemont and 110 Trail (by the Cemetery). Arlington has a few other trails that they don’t clear (e.g. Rock Spring, Key Blvd), but they have not been allowed to clear on the rest of the W&OD or on the MVT.

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