Idaho comes to Delaware

[Steve O]

From the Washcycle:
http://www.thewashcycle.com/2017/10/delaware-governor-signs-limited-stop-as-yield-law.html

Delaware Governor signs limited Stop-as-Yield law

Yesterday, Delaware became the 2nd state to put in place an Idaho Stop law, though it’s not as expansive as the Idaho version. Governor John Carney signed the “Bicycle Friendly Delaware Act” that, among other things, allows cyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs (the stop-as-yield half of the Idaho law) but only on two lane roads. The law also prohibits drivers from honking their horns at cyclists, unless a collision is imminent, requires drivers to change lanes when passing cyclists and calls for the installation of bicycle-specific traffic lights.

It also removes the “ride right” requirement. Gov. Carney also signed a separate law that enhances the penalties for drivers who cause serious physical injury to a cyclist and gives jurisdiction over these violations to Delaware Superior Court, which handles the more serious criminal cases in the state.

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[AFHokie]

@huskerdont 166707 wrote:

Depends on the car, I think. With my Hondas, the gear ratio was great for that–far better than first, and in snow, I’d even start from a dead stop in second. But with my Subaru, unless I’m going above a certain minimum (varies depending a bit on the gradient), it could lug the engine or stall.

As a kid we had an old 4spd F-150. You only needed 1st if fully loaded and starting out on a hill. If revved it high enough I could get it moving in third without stalling out.

It was also fairly easy to powershift, but that was probably more the worn synchros than my ability to rev match

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[DismalScientist]

My synchros really suck so that it is difficult to shift into first even when I am completely stopped. That’s why I leave it in second and slow roll through stop signs. It’s just too difficult to come to a complete stop with a manual transmission car.:rolleyes:

[hozn]

@DismalScientist 166714 wrote:

My synchros really suck so that it is difficult to shift into first even when I am completely stopped. That’s why I leave it in second and slow roll through stop signs. It’s just too difficult to come to a complete stop with a manual transmission car.:rolleyes:

Ha, that’s funny . Yeah, my synchros were shot in my Saab 900, so I also had to use 2nd for everything. It made for some scary moments on hills. OTOH, yeah, my Acura TL could go from a stop in third; that was a pretty powerful car (and I’m sure the ratios helped).

[lordofthemark]

@DismalScientist 166714 wrote:

My synchros really suck so that it is difficult to shift into first even when I am completely stopped. That’s why I leave it in second and slow roll through stop signs. It’s just too difficult to come to a complete stop with a manual transmission car.:rolleyes:

So, when driving, do you alter your route to avoid stop signs? There is some evidence that the legal status of Delaware stops impacts cyclist route choice – when its illegal riders are more likely to choose routes with fewer stop signs, which often means choosing roads that are faster with higher traffic volumes over quiet residential back streets – with negative safety consequences for the people on bikes.

Now some of the riders here, who are relatively fast, relatively confident, or both, may seldom choose those slow residential back streets anyway, and so be less inconvenienced by coming to a full stop every single block. And that is okay. But I think we should at least be aware of all the reasons people choose to Delaware, and all the ramifications of both choices.

[dkel]

@hozn 166722 wrote:

Ha, that’s funny . Yeah, my synchros were shot in my Saab 900, so I also had to use 2nd for everything. It made for some scary moments on hills. OTOH, yeah, my Acura TL could go from a stop in third; that was a pretty powerful car (and I’m sure the ratios helped).

I started my dad’s ‘76 Corolla in third once to impress a date. It worked fine except for the burning smell that started shortly thereafter. I doubt the girl was that impressed.

[hozn]

@dkel 166729 wrote:

I started my dad’s ‘76 Corolla in third once to impress a date. It worked fine except for the burning smell that started shortly thereafter. I doubt the girl was that impressed.

I guess if she’s not also your current wife then this did not work as planned

Yeah, my Saab couldn’t start in 3rd. I may have tried once or twice.

I actually broke off the shift lever while driving that car. Luckily it was right as I was pulling into my apartment parking lot so I could get the rest of the way home in 3rd! Glad I didn’t have to stop.

[Starduster]

@dkel 166729 wrote:

I started my dad’s ‘76 Corolla in third once to impress a date. It worked fine except for the burning smell that started shortly thereafter. I doubt the girl was that impressed.

Ah, the smell of fried clutch on a date!

[bentbike33]

@Starduster 166732 wrote:

Ah, the smell of fried clutch on a date!

It smells like…

loneliness.

[huskerdont]

@hozn 166730 wrote:

I actually broke off the shift lever while driving that car. Luckily it was right as I was pulling into my apartment parking lot so I could get the rest of the way home in 3rd! Glad I didn’t have to stop.

Happened to me in my 1980 Honda Civic. Managed to drive all the way home across Virginia Beach in 2nd. Young and stupid and fortunate. I learned to drive stick in that car while test driving it as the owner worked her shift at the grocery store.

Thread successfully hijacked and turned into Car Talk. Time for me to leave for a ride.

[Judd]

@huskerdont 166735 wrote:

Thread successfully hijacked and turned into Car Talk. Time for me to leave for a ride.

Remember, don’t drive like my Huskerdont….

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