Hit from behind by maroon Gold Rush recumbent with windshield
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September 4, 2014 at 1:13 pm #1009121
baiskeli
Participant@dkel 93721 wrote:
I’m slower than the pros, and slower than many pathletes, so I wouldn’t consider myself in the running for the tour. But recumbents are supposed to have speed potential beyond upright bikes, and yet I don’t think I’ve ever been passed by one on the trail. If the riders are all around average for the trail, shouldn’t there still be some speed demons on recumbents?
It’s kinda like NASCAR races involve “stock cars.”
September 4, 2014 at 1:15 pm #1009122mikoglaces
ParticipantI was the victim of a cyclist hit and run one time and I called the Arlington police, who confirmed it was a hit and run and that I could file a report. They mailed me the form, but I never filed it, for the obvious reason that there’d be no way to actually catch the guy.
September 4, 2014 at 1:22 pm #1009125Drewdane
Participant@dkel 93713 wrote:
Pretty sure I saw this guy on my way home tonight. Traveling east through Falls Church I saw an orange version of the bike coming towards me just before I got to Citizens’ Bridge, which caught my eye because of this thread. Then I saw another bike like it just after I crossed the bridge, which seemed a pretty rare occurrence, and that one was definitely a maroon-purple-looking color. It was a double-take kind of situation, though, and going in opposite directions didn’t help. Was the collision guy bearded? I’m pretty sure this guy had a beard, though again, it was a quick pass.
As an aside, if recumbents hold all kinds of speed records for human-powered vehicles, why is it that they’re always so slow on the trail??
Well, OF COURSE he had a beard! He was riding a recumbent, wasn’t he?
September 4, 2014 at 1:32 pm #1009128mstone
Participant@dcv 93723 wrote:
Going fast doesn’t mean you have anything to prove
wondering at length about the number of people of various types who do and do not pass, on the other hand…
September 4, 2014 at 2:01 pm #1009134Kolohe
Participant@dkel 93721 wrote:
I’m slower than the pros, and slower than many pathletes, so I wouldn’t consider myself in the running for the tour. But recumbents are supposed to have speed potential beyond upright bikes, and yet I don’t think I’ve ever been passed by one on the trail. If the riders are all around average for the trail, shouldn’t there still be some speed demons on recumbents?
Aren’t they really bad at acceleration though? and especially hills? At least it’s my experience that airport area Mt Vernon trail recumbents are just about the slowest non-stroller vehicles out there, while Difficult Run valley ones are among the fastest.
September 4, 2014 at 2:46 pm #1009141jabberwocky
ParticipantRecumbents (generally) have a smaller frontal area than an upright bike, and therefore a higher potential speed when air resistance/wind is the determining factor. You can’t get weight over the pedals for sprinting and climbing so they tend to suffer on uphills and accelerating.
September 4, 2014 at 2:56 pm #1009145Subby
ParticipantI am totally rear-ending this guy if I ever see him.
September 4, 2014 at 3:56 pm #1009155bikerfactor
Participant@RideTheWomble 93724 wrote:
I understand this was a huge deal to you, and that you were upset. 911 is for emergencies where a serious crime is in progress, or there is an immediate threat to human life, though. In other words, someone is having a heart attack, or an armed robber is threatening a cashier, or there’s been an accident, and someone needs an ambulance NOW. By calling 911 with an issue that’s not as serious as those types of things, you may be contributing to those 5 minute holds.
I keep the Arlington Police non-emergency number in my phone for stuff like this – (703) 558-2222. This happened pretty close to the jurisdictional line, but they’d still have been able to help. Most importantly, you would have given the dispatcher the discretion to prioritize the call. I suggest putting the police non-emergency numbers for the jurisdictions where you ride in your contacts. If you have a fender-bender, see some new graffiti, notice a stranded vehicle that needs help, have a kitten up a tree, or any number of scenarios where someone isn’t bleeding out, you’ll have the number.
Having said all that, the recumbulator driver does sound like a cowardly douche, and it’s disheartening that he brought needless conflict to the trail and messed up your bike.
Yes, understood, it is probably guys like me who are clogging up the 911 line and I realized as I was doing it that calling them was not a very cool thing to do. That said, I didn’t have the arlington number, the guy was standing right in front of me and telling me he was going to commit a hit and run, and I figured if the cops actually responded immediately they might nab him since he was so obvious and obviously heading into town on the trail. Plus I had just told the guy I was going to call the cops on him… But seriously, the dispatcher could have just said “hey buddy, call the arlington cops – here’s their number, and it would have taken about 10 seconds. I truly find it frightening to learn that if I call 911 in Arlington for a real emergency I will have to wait for 5 minutes before a human actually picks up the phone. Couldn’t they at least pick up and do a quick triage? (e.g., “hello, 911, is this a life-threatening emergency? Are you in physical danger? No – OK, we have to put you on hold for a few minutes).
BTW, I waited about 20 minutes for the cops, who never showed. Then I pedaled home, another 20 minutes, and maybe 10 minutes later got a call from an officer (I had given the dispatcher my number). He told me he wouldn’t have been able to do anything even if he had been on the scene – since it was “not like there were cars involved,” that this was “a risk of riding on the bike path,” and that if they responded to every incident on the path they would be “inundated.” At least the guy was honest, but still I was under the impression that since I was crossing a city street at the time of impact, that traffic rules applied to us both. I’d bet this same cop would give me a ticket for going through that stop sign on my bike without stopping if he happened to be in the mood (I’ve heard of cops doing this on the W&OD but haven’t witnessed it).
Anyway, thanks for the Arlington number. I’ll put it in my phone right now.
September 4, 2014 at 4:04 pm #1009156bikerfactor
Participant@dkel 93713 wrote:
Pretty sure I saw this guy on my way home tonight. Traveling east through Falls Church I saw an orange version of the bike coming towards me just before I got to Citizens’ Bridge, which caught my eye because of this thread. Then I saw another bike like it just after I crossed the bridge, which seemed a pretty rare occurrence, and that one was definitely a maroon-purple-looking color. It was a double-take kind of situation, though, and going in opposite directions didn’t help. Was the collision guy bearded? I’m pretty sure this guy had a beard, though again, it was a quick pass.
As an aside, if recumbents hold all kinds of speed records for human-powered vehicles, why is it that they’re always so slow on the trail??
He didn’t have a beard (as far as I remember). I’m seeing lots of pictures of orange versions of this bike online, but I’m pretty positive his was maroon/purple. I don’t remember seeing any patriotic bling either. Next time I see him I’ll post and update….. with a photo….
September 4, 2014 at 4:35 pm #1009159dasgeh
Participant@bikerfactor 93765 wrote:
BTW, I waited about 20 minutes for the cops, who never showed. Then I pedaled home, another 20 minutes, and maybe 10 minutes later got a call from an officer (I had given the dispatcher my number). He told me he wouldn’t have been able to do anything even if he had been on the scene – since it was “not like there were cars involved,” that this was “a risk of riding on the bike path,” and that if they responded to every incident on the path they would be “inundated.” At least the guy was honest, but still I was under the impression that since I was crossing a city street at the time of impact, that traffic rules applied to us both. I’d bet this same cop would give me a ticket for going through that stop sign on my bike without stopping if he happened to be in the mood (I’ve heard of cops doing this on the W&OD but haven’t witnessed it).
Anyway, thanks for the Arlington number. I’ll put it in my phone right now.
Was this an Arlington officer?
September 4, 2014 at 4:57 pm #1009162Brendan von Buckingham
ParticipantJust camp out at that spot +/- 15 minutes from the time the incident happened, i.e. if the incident happened at 8:15, go there tomorrow at 8:00 and hang around until 8:30. Commuters don’t vary their routes or departure times too much. You’ll have a high chance of finding him again that way. What you actually do or say in that event is up to you.
I’ve found drivers this way. Usually only takes two or three tries.
September 4, 2014 at 5:04 pm #1009163jrenaut
Participant@bikerfactor 93765 wrote:
…He told me he wouldn’t have been able to do anything even if he had been on the scene – since it was “not like there were cars involved,” that this was “a risk of riding on the bike path,” and that if they responded to every incident on the path they would be “inundated.” At least the guy was honest, but still I was under the impression that since I was crossing a city street at the time of impact, that traffic rules applied to us both. I’d bet this same cop would give me a ticket for going through that stop sign on my bike without stopping if he happened to be in the mood (I’ve heard of cops doing this on the W&OD but haven’t witnessed it).
This is complete and total garbage. Just goes to show that, despite all the progress, nothing counts but cars. That police officer’s job is to protect and serve the people of and in Arlington, whether OR NOT they are in their cars at the time.
September 4, 2014 at 5:11 pm #1009166Steve O
Participant@RideTheWomble 93724 wrote:
I suggest putting the police non-emergency numbers in your contacts. If you have a …. kitten up a tree….
Why would you call anyone? A few well aimed rocks will do the trick.
September 4, 2014 at 5:30 pm #1009168September 4, 2014 at 6:20 pm #1009173Bill Hole
ParticipantI just want to point out to any potential vigilantes that I’ve seen more than one Gold Rush meeting the description of this one in the area. Don’t go off half-cocked and harass the wrong rider.
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