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  • #1008598
    Raymo853
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    @americancyclo 93032 wrote:

    So no one on that ride used strava?

    If you want to try to look, Chuck Harney form the Bike Rack DC did Strava the ride. Not sure if he was in this group as the crash happened.
    http://www.strava.com/activities/181584347

    #1008599
    americancyclo
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    I didn’t see anything promising on the flyby

    #1008600
    cyclingfool
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    YEah. It was certainly worth checking, but if the perp realized that he caused a crash and that people got hurt, I’m assuming that even if he did Strava, he’d either keep that ride private or not upload it at all to begin with.

    #1008601
    Raymo853
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    @americancyclo 93165 wrote:

    I didn’t see anything promising on the flyby

    Based on the title of this ride and the comments on it, this woman was the second rider that fell. Her activity ends at the Howard ER.

    http://www.strava.com/activities/181675762

    #1008652
    Raymo853
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    The video ended up getting used as the basis of an article on Cycling Tips from . I do not agree with the conclusions and suspect the author, and promoted comments, do not know the full story.
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/08/why-you-shouldnt-overlap-wheels/

    #1008668
    KLizotte
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    One of the quotes says “As an aside, what surprised me from the twitter post was the number of people who get the terms ‘half-wheeling’ and ‘overlapping’ mixed up, when they are two different things entirely.”

    I’m one of those who would have thought they were the same thing. What is the difference?

    #1008671
    Harry Meatmotor
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    @KLizotte 93240 wrote:

    One of the quotes says “As an aside, what surprised me from the twitter post was the number of people who get the terms ‘half-wheeling’ and ‘overlapping’ mixed up, when they are two different things entirely.”

    I’m one of those who would have thought they were the same thing. What is the difference?

    Half-wheeling is riding next to another rider, but about half a bike length off his front wheel. It’s generally construed as poor etiquette. Wheel overlapping is when you’re behind someone and overlap your front wheel with their rear wheel. Overlap is plain dangerous, half-wheeling more or less just annoying.

    #1008672
    Tim Kelley
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    @Harry Meatmotor 93243 wrote:

    Half-wheeling is riding next to another rider, but about half a bike length off his front wheel. It’s generally construed as poor etiquette. Wheel overlapping is when you’re behind someone and overlap your front wheel with their rear wheel. Overlap is plain dangerous, half-wheeling more or less just annoying.

    Half-wheeling is also a way of demonstrating your dominance over another rider. E.g. “I’m going to halfwheel you all the way up that hill!”

    #1008674
    Geoff
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    @Tim Kelley 93244 wrote:

    Half-wheeling is also a way of demonstrating your dominance over another rider. E.g. “I’m going to halfwheel you all the way up that hill!”

    See, that wouldn’t work with me because of my ignorance. If someone halfwheels me up a hill, I assume he wants to pass but can’t pull it off. If he wants to make me feel bad he should just pass and then accelerate as we reach the top!

    Then again, anyone half-wheeling me to assert dominance would feel mighty silly when everyone else on the trail passes the both of us!

    #1008746
    Vicegrip
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    1/2 wheeling to show dominance? What a nice way to muck up a ride.

    #1008765
    Tim Kelley
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    @Geoff 93247 wrote:

    See, that wouldn’t work with me because of my ignorance. If someone halfwheels me up a hill, I assume he wants to pass but can’t pull it off. If he wants to make me feel bad he should just pass and then accelerate as we reach the top!

    Then again, anyone half-wheeling me to assert dominance would feel mighty silly when everyone else on the trail passes the both of us!

    No, you wouldn’t half-wheel someone random. You’d do it on a spirited group ride, on the road, where you have plenty of space to spread out.

    #1008767
    americancyclo
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    @Tim Kelley 93345 wrote:

    No, you wouldn’t half-wheel someone random. You’d do it on a spirited group ride, on the road, where you have plenty of space to spread out.

    So you wouldn’t half wheel someone up the dark side of Reddish? :p

    #1008769
    Tim Kelley
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    @americancyclo 93347 wrote:

    So you wouldn’t half wheel someone up the dark side of Reddish? :p

    It’s all mind games and treachery. Going up Reddish, if you think someone might be stronger than you, one tactic would be to go extra hard to half-wheel them for the first couple minutes while pretending that you’re taking it easy, then once they’re resigned to the fact that you seem stronger, you can then dictate a slower, more sustainable pace.

    #1008772
    Harry Meatmotor
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    to further elucidate the more ELITE intricacies of half-wheeling, here are some tactical considerations:

    if following the lead rider in a group of racers, half-wheeling allows you to stay in the lead rider’s blind spot.

    by staying in the lead rider’s blind spot, you can ATTACK and gain a second or two before the lead rider can respond.

    the half-wheeling rider can react to any accelerations by the lead rider without having to go around the lead rider.

    the half-wheeling rider can still use a small amount of drafting – particularly if there’s a crosswind.

    the half-wheeling rider can still see the lead rider’s face and will constantly be watching to see if mock agony changes to true agony, especially on climbs. if the half-wheeling rider sees true agony, ATTACK.

    #1008780
    sethpo
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    @Harry Meatmotor 93352 wrote:

    to further elucidate the more ELITE intricacies of half-wheeling, here are some tactical considerations:

    ..

    the half-wheeling rider can still see the lead rider’s face and will constantly be watching to see if mock agony changes to true agony, especially on climbs. if the half-wheeling rider sees true agony, ATTACK.

    I do this to car drivers everyday on the busy climb up Bradley Rd into Bethesda. To be honest, I’m sure the tactic works for me.

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