Help ID this guy — caused a bike crash sending 2 to hospital
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August 18, 2014 at 1:42 pm #1008199
Kbikeva
ParticipantThe guy was the ‘leap frogging’ type: does not like to be passed. The group passed him once and he rushed to the head of the group, then started dropping back, followed by this final move. The worst is that as he passed the person leading the group, he quipped something about riders needing better bike handling skills. Someone should have a word with him.
August 18, 2014 at 1:45 pm #1008200Geoff
Participant@Kbikeva 92745 wrote:
From a friend’s post.
Yesterday I was testing a Fly6 camera during the Bike Rack group ride. We were close to Military Rd on Beach Dr, when a random cyclist decided to cut in between the line, clipping the front wheel of the person behind me. A cyclist hit and run: he saw the accident, did not bother to stop. Perhaps you may see the rider of that silver/blue Pinarello in your rides: http://youtu.be/eTTGroH8BZI
Rider appears at about :42
If you can ID this person, please contact the Bike Rack (202) 387-2453 so they can pass the info on to the injured.
Let’s all be more careful and courteous out there. Jeez.
This incident frustrates and upsets me for a couple reasons. No question the fellow who caused the crash should have stopped. Also, he should have been more cautious when moving to the left. He did signal his move in a way many people do, though the same signal is also used to say “I’m stopping” or “debris / pothole on trail” or even “my hand is going numb.”
But I also feel the fellow who took the spill should have been more vigilant and maybe should have dropped back a bit. This is why overlapping wheels are a bad thing. Even granting that the guy who fell is 100% in the right by whatever laws and etiquette rules apply, we all need to be alert because we don’t know what the next person will do. Every time I go out I pray that (1) I don’t do something dumb that hurts somebody, and (2) if someone else does something dumb, I’ll be alert enough to react and avoid.
August 18, 2014 at 1:53 pm #1008202creadinger
ParticipantHis hand gesture just seemed arrogant to me. I mean I guess people do this type of move in pelotons (none I’ve ridden in), but I’ve never known anyone who just HAD to get over right now just so he could pass somebody. If someone puts out a stop sign to me like that I’d be more taken aback and surprised and probably would not immediately drop back either. It’s the car version of – “I need to get over because if I don’t I can’t pass people, you’re in my way, and I’m coming over anyway, so watch out. Dick move. He could have waited until the other guy passed.
Sorry, I don’t recognize him.
August 18, 2014 at 2:48 pm #1008205hozn
ParticipantYeah, I don’t think one can blame the person behind for not dropping back more/faster. It looks like he did slow down when the guy signaled, but hitting the brakes hard in a paceline like that is just as likely to cause an accident for the person behind. The guy moved over way too quickly without ensuring that it was actually clear to do so — and for no apparent safety reason (e.g. to avoid hitting a person, car, or hole in the road, etc.) What a jackhole. Sorry, I don’t recognize him either.
August 18, 2014 at 3:01 pm #1008206Sunyata
ParticipantI am just shocked at that video. The guy was too impatient to safely get over which caused other riders to go down and he failed to stop?! WTF?
I really hope this guy can be ID’ed and held liable for the injuries (and bike damage) to those he caused to go down.
😡
August 18, 2014 at 3:18 pm #1008209Powerful Pete
ParticipantWill keep an eye out for him. These people really annoy me. Poor bike handling skills and not even the decency to stop after causing an accident.:mad:
August 18, 2014 at 3:19 pm #1008211Geoff
Participant@hozn 92753 wrote:
Yeah, I don’t think one can blame the person behind for not dropping back more/faster. It looks like he did slow down when the guy signaled, but hitting the brakes hard in a paceline like that is just as likely to cause an accident for the person behind. The guy moved over way too quickly without ensuring that it was actually clear to do so — and for no apparent safety reason (e.g. to avoid hitting a person, car, or hole in the road, etc.) What a jackhole. Sorry, I don’t recognize him either.
No argument with any of that.
August 18, 2014 at 4:56 pm #1008216dcv
Participantlook for him on strava flyby
http://labs.strava.com/flyby/viewer/August 18, 2014 at 4:58 pm #1008217dasgeh
ParticipantSomeone did a screen capture and threw it up to the original thread (on Facebook).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204581729049100&set=p.10204581729049100&type=1
August 19, 2014 at 12:39 pm #1008243Dickie
ParticipantSorry, I don’t recognize him but I will certainly keep my eye out for him. He also has a mirror on his helmet which apparently is solely for vanity reasons… what an asshat!
I hope the two riders are recovering from their injuries.
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August 19, 2014 at 3:49 pm #1008279Steve O
Participant@hozn 92753 wrote:
Yeah, I don’t think one can blame the person behind for not dropping back more/faster. The guy moved over way too quickly without ensuring that it was actually clear to do so
Making the analogy to driving in traffic, one cannot just put on the turn signal and move left into the next lane. It is always the responsibility of the car making the move (passing, changing lanes, etc.) to make certain it is safe to do so first. Likewise with this cyclist. Since he is making the move, it is his responsibility to make certain it is safe to do so. He did not.
The hit and run, however, is the far more egregious crime. IMO, if found he should be prosecuted just the same as a driver in a hit and run.
August 19, 2014 at 3:55 pm #1008280OneEighth
Participant@Steve O 92835 wrote:
Making the analogy to driving in traffic, one cannot just put on the turn signal and move left into the next lane. It is always the responsibility of the car making the move (passing, changing lanes, etc.) to make certain it is safe to do so first. Likewise with this cyclist. Since he is making the move, it is his responsibility to make certain it is safe to do so. He did not.
The hit and run, however, is the far more egregious crime. IMO, if found he should be prosecuted just the same as a driver in a hit and run.
Which gets at my question — has this been reported to the authorities? It’s a hit and run with injuries. On film.
August 19, 2014 at 10:40 pm #1008325evanstonian
Participant@OneEighth 92836 wrote:
Which gets at my question — has this been reported to the authorities? It’s a hit and run with injuries. On film.
Yes, it was reported to the Park Police (who responded with two patrol cars to the 911 call); one of the officers has the video as well as screen shots from it.
August 19, 2014 at 11:00 pm #1008328OneEighth
Participant@evanstonian 92882 wrote:
Yes, it was reported to the Park Police (who responded with two patrol cars to the 911 call); one of the officers has the video as well as screen shots from it.
Excellent.
Sure hope someone is able to ID the perp.
More importantly, I hope the injured riders recover fully and quickly.August 19, 2014 at 11:07 pm #1008329dkel
ParticipantI just feel awful about this whole situation. I don’t know what else to say. I hope everyone involved can find healing and peace.
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