Guys – don’t shout at women

[lordofthemark]

@SolarBikeCar 161201 wrote:

When you have a demographics that is the primary source of a social ill you definitely target them.

What I hear with “Men don’t yell” is not an attempt to target the message to a demographic to reach the few that cause the social ill, but an attempt to demonize the whole demographic.

The reluctance to accept that feedback as legitimate is telling.

Sigh. Responding and disagreeing is not delegitimating. Arguing is not the same as bullying. (There IS some bullying in some parts of the social justice movement, but that is not what I see here – I see rational argument)

[dkel]

@SolarBikeCar 161201 wrote:

The reluctance to accept that feedback as legitimate is telling.

As is your insistence that everything is about you: for you to take a well-reasoned and well-meaning WABA article about women’s experiences of men’s behavior, and complain that it is unfair to men, proves the necessity for such articles in the first place. Until you understand that any disenfranchised demographic will remain so until their experiences are shared and understood by the majority, there will be no social justice for that demographic. Your complaint about the unfairness of the article marginalizes the very message of the article, and perpetuates the underlying problem. What the world needs from from people like you is more willingness to understand and sympathize, and less reiteration of your already dominant position.

And another thing: when will you go away?? Really. I’m pretty sure everyone on this forum is sick of your tripe! 😡

[rcannon100]

@dkel 161207 wrote:

And another thing: when will you go away??

Remember that this forum software give you the ability to ignore people – and you never see their posts.

[dkel]

@rcannon100 161209 wrote:

Remember that this forum software give you the ability to ignore people – and you never see their posts.

It doesn’t also edit out quotes from that turkey in other people’s posts! Otherwise I’d be perfectly fine, as I’ve been “ignoring” him for many months!

[rcannon100]

@dkel 161212 wrote:

It doesn’t also edit out quotes from that turkey in other people’s posts! Otherwise I’d be perfectly fine, as I’ve been “ignoring” him for many months!

Yeah, well, true…. but I tend to filter out both the trolls and those who feed the trolls.

[Vicegrip]

@rcannon100 161213 wrote:

Yeah, well, true…. but I tend to filter out both the trolls and those who feed the trolls.

Must be very quiet there. Well except for Puppies!

[rcannon100]

@Vicegrip 161214 wrote:

Must be very quiet there. Well except for Puppies!

Did someone mention puppies???

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[Vicegrip]

I like the direction this thread is going!

[sjclaeys]

@dkel 161207 wrote:

I’m pretty sure everyone on this forum is sick of your tripe! 😡

Mmmm, tripe!
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[ginacico]

Kudos and Thank You to the guy who, near the Jefferson memorial, paused with a smile to let me go first up the path to the 14th Street bridge this evening. Then followed (politely, not closely) until we got onto the bridge, waited for a safe pass, and gave me a cheerful “Hey, have a great ride!” on the way by.

Maybe you can teach a few of these other dudes how to act like a gentleman. Us women, we like that stuff.

[jrenaut]

@eminva 160995 wrote:

I always say, “Do you have everything you need?” What they need could include expertise, but I’m making no assumptions.

I JUST had the opportunity to do this. I was looking out the front door to check on my younger daughter kicking the soccer ball around, and there was a woman in the park across the street with her bike upside down. She seemed to have dropped her chain.

I went outside and asked if she had everything she needed. A brief inspection suggested we might need to take the wheel off – I’m not even sure how the chain got so out of whack. She did not have a wrench, so I went in and got one. When I came back out, we managed to get the chain back on and agreed that the derailleur did not appear to be exactly in the right position, and the cable looked like it had gotten sheared off somehow, almost right at the bolt. So she’s going to take it to a real mechanic.

She mentioned that another gentleman had previously stopped to ask if she needed help, but he had neither tools nor bike knowledge.

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