Freezing Saddles 2015 ~ At Least Yer Not in Kiev, Comrade

[Mikey]

@Alcova cyclist 102283 wrote:

I think I saw this somewhere waaay upthread, but what’s the general consensus on kids (of the teenaged sort) participating? My 15yo is starting to get into cycling, but since he doesn’t bike to school, he’d realistically be unlikely to ride more than a few times a week for 5-15 mile a go. Could we ask to be on the same team so we could try to do team rides together?

Last year threre was a Kidical award for the most number of miles biked with your kid(s) during the event. I think 15 isn’t too old to count for that award. Dasgeh? ruling, and how do we participate?

[dasgeh]

@Alcova cyclist 102283 wrote:

I think I saw this somewhere waaay upthread, but what’s the general consensus on kids (of the teenaged sort) participating? My 15yo is starting to get into cycling, but since he doesn’t bike to school, he’d realistically be unlikely to ride more than a few times a week for 5-15 mile a go. Could we ask to be on the same team so we could try to do team rides together?

rcannon’s Kid participated last year. He didn’t ride every day. We were happy to have him on our team.

@Mikey 102285 wrote:

Last year threre was a Kidical award for the most number of miles biked with your kid(s) during the event. I think 15 isn’t too old to count for that award. Dasgeh? ruling, and how do we participate?

The point of #kidical is for the adult to get credit for riding with the kid. You wouldn’t mark a ride #kidical because you rode with your 15-year-old self. (though if you ride with your 15 yo kid, you deserve credit, so #kidical is cool).

You participate by titling a ride #kidical in Strava.

[rcannon100]

@dasgeh 102291 wrote:

rcannon’s Kid participated last year. He didn’t ride every day.

Rule #9 #Fail.

[hozn]

Yeah, it sounds like the slackers team may need to be reconsidered for next year (or this?). If the only goal of the slackers team is to allow individuals to participate in the pointless prizes but not the team, then perhaps it has value. OTOH, I think there is a valid point that it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to have a team in a competition that is deliberately not intending to compete.

I don’t think I will bother to join the slackers team this year because it won’t change my winter riding and I realize I can still crash the happy hours.

[jrenaut]

The day forum members can’t crash happy hours is the day I quit this forum. I don’t think that day will ever come.

[dkel]

@dasgeh 102291 wrote:

(though if you ride with your 15 yo kid, you deserve credit, so #kidical is cool).

This is a change from last year.

[peterw_diy]

@dkel 102310 wrote:

This is a change from last year.

I like the physical connection rule. Credit for trailers, cargo passengers, trail-a-bikes, and tandems, no credit for separate bikes.

[ShawnoftheDread]

No credit for separate bikes? Have you ever tried to shepherd an 8 year old around the Loop? Way harder than pulling her on a trail-a-bike.

[DismalScientist]

@peterw_diy 102312 wrote:

I like the physical connection rule. Credit for trailers, cargo passengers, trail-a-bikes, and tandems, no credit for separate bikes.

How about rubbing brake pads?

[americancyclo]

@dasgeh 102291 wrote:

The point of #kidical is for the adult to get credit for riding with the kid. You wouldn’t mark a ride #kidical because you rode with your 15-year-old self. (though if you ride with your 15 yo kid, you deserve credit, so #kidical is cool).

You participate by titling a ride #kidical in Strava.

so a young rider (under 18?) wouldn’t mark their own ride on their own bike as #kidical, but the adult rider on the same bike ride (but a separate bike) would mark it as #kidical ?

@peterw_diy 102312 wrote:

I like the physical connection rule. Credit for trailers, cargo passengers, trail-a-bikes, and tandems, no credit for separate bikes.

I like this rule too, but only b/c my kid can’t ride her own bike yet. or at least when she does, i’m mostly walking or standing around.

@ShawnoftheDread 102323 wrote:

No credit for separate bikes? Have you ever tried to shepherd an 8 year old around the Loop? Way harder than pulling her on a trail-a-bike.

are we having a #kidical and #familybike schism?

[Mikey]

@ShawnoftheDread 102323 wrote:

No credit for separate bikes? Have you ever tried to shepherd an 8 year old around the Loop? Way harder than pulling her on a trail-a-bike.

Yes, it’s like carrying yogurt, it’s easier with the cup.

[ramblingrider]

@KLizotte 102276 wrote:

I’m also not competitive so I won’t be motivated to go out in the cold and yuck just to get team points. I fully expect to be a disappointment on anyone’s team!

I feel the same way!

Honestly, I don’t care what team I’m on. As long as I am able to bike when I can and my team won’t give me a hard time, I’m happy.

[dasgeh]

@peterw_diy 102312 wrote:

I like the physical connection rule. Credit for trailers, cargo passengers, trail-a-bikes, and tandems, no credit for separate bikes.

Fair point, all. Physical connection rule it is. ShawnoftheDread, you can hold hands with your charge.

[rcannon100]

Blah blah blah slackers blah blah blah

Is there any way to PLEASE make this discussion stop. We have discussed the rules. We reached consensus. It’s time for this discussion to stop and move on.

There is a slacker team. It is a team for people who do not want to compete for the total mileage/point total. If the slacker team should not be on the leaderboard, FINE!! I think that is the point, they dont want to compete for the grand total miles (so dont put them in that part of the game).

But these are people who, for whatever reason, still want to participant in the reindeer games. They want to come to the festivities. Maybe they want to compete as individuals. Maybe they simply enjoy wasting their time. I dont know.

I do know that some people on this forum – I wont name any names (cough, everyone) – can be a little competitive. And some participants, while very much enjoying cycling in subartic weather with a 25mph wind coming off the potomac, would prefer not to be yell at that they are not riding enough miles.

It is the classic mantra: if you dont want to be on the slacker team, DONT JOIN. But please stop telling people they cant be slackers (what difference is it to you anyway – I mean, who cares??). Where would this country be without slackers? Without slackers, we would not have President Bill Clinton…. or Animal House…. our PhD’s to make us coffee at starbucks…. or teenagers.

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[rcannon100]

@dasgeh 102333 wrote:

Fair point, all. Physical connection rule it is. ShawnoftheDread, you can hold hands with your charge.

I’m not holding hands with mine!

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