Freezing Saddles 2015

[rcannon100]

@DCAKen 100987 wrote:

Just to put another spin on all the handicapping discussions…

The number of days that a participant gets the daily bonus is never taken into account. Those ten points can be a substantial percentage of the points earned…and I had several 13 point days during those bitter cold spells only because I didn’t want to end up on the Sleaze Days list. How much of an effect does the daily bonus have on a team’s ranking?

This is incorrect. The handicap was people’s score based on miles ridden and days ridden.

Anyway, Steve O and I argued until we were blue in the face at FCC-Post-Turkey and have achieved multilateral consensus. As soon az I makes my grammah all good the form shud go live.

[jrenaut]

@rcannon100 100990 wrote:

As soon az I makes my grammah all good the form shud go live.

I’m thrilled to hear that. If this thread reaches 30 pages before we can sign up I’ll burn my Moose Mitts.

[rcannon100]

@jrenaut 100993 wrote:

I’m thrilled to hear that. If this thread reaches 30 pages before we can sign up I’ll burn my Moose Mitts.

[dasgeh]

@DCAKen 100987 wrote:

Just to put another spin on all the handicapping discussions…

The number of days that a participant gets the daily bonus is never taken into account. Those ten points can be a substantial percentage of the points earned…and I had several 13 point days during those bitter cold spells only because I didn’t want to end up on the Sleaze Days list. How much of an effect does the daily bonus have on a team’s ranking?

It’s a good point: increasing the daily bonus will counter the effect mega-mileage riders have on rankings and encourage every day riding.

I wonder if we doubled the daily bonus whether completely random teams would be competitive. Or just the top 1 rider per team assigned (v. Top 2), then random, would work

[jrenaut]

Bear in mind that I help hozn with the Freezing Saddles website. Sure would be a shame if a “software glitch” kept under-reporting your points…

[jrenaut]

@dasgeh 100996 wrote:

It’s a good point: increasing the daily bonus will counter the effect mega-mileage riders have on rankings and encourage every day riding.

I wonder if we doubled the daily bonus whether completely random teams would be competitive. Or just the top 1 rider per team assigned (v. Top 2), then random, would work

I’m nearly positive we ran some numbers last year and messing with the daily bonus would have had an entirely negligible effect on the standings. I might even have some record of that on my laptop at home.

[rcannon100]

We also discussed this at length last year and decided to stay with the current mileage and points design. This was not brought up this year as something to change, and we are about to go live with registration (altering the rules could alter how registration is done)

[americancyclo]

@rcannon100 100990 wrote:

As soon az I makes my grammah all good the form shud go live.

So, never, then? :p

[ShawnoftheDread]

@jrenaut 100998 wrote:

I’m nearly positive we ran some numbers last year and messing with the daily bonus would have had an entirely negligible effect on the standings. I might even have some record of that on my laptop at home.

Yes, we found little effect. Probably because the high mileage riders and teams also ride every day.

[Steve O]

@Mikey 76866 wrote:

Is anyone really good at graphic design? and have a lot of extra time on their hands. I think it would be cool to generate a poster with all of the winning photos on it, and present them at FS end happy hour.

Instead of a poster, how about a 2015 calendar featuring photos from last year’s Winter Wonderland and Founding Fathers side bets?

If you would be willing to pay $10 for such a thing, please like this post. If there is enough interest, I may take it on. Would make available at the initial happy hour.

[Zurichman]

I would like to join the frozen saddle contest. I doubt if I could join any happy hours as I live 90 miles away in rural Pa. and just want to ride my bike. A weekly goal for me in Jan would be 50 miles a week. I will be logging my miles on Bikejournal.com not strava.

Zman

[jrenaut]

@Zurichman 101458 wrote:

I would like to join the frozen saddle contest. I doubt if I could join any happy hours as I live 90 miles away in rural Pa. and just want to ride my bike. A weekly goal for me in Jan would be 50 miles a week. I will be logging my miles on Bikejournal.com not strava.

Zman

I’m not entirely sure you aren’t just trolling RCannon, but if you’re serious – your location isn’t super important, but we’d rather you were a part of the forum. If this post is just the beginning of you joining our community, then welcome! Unfortunately, for Freezing Saddles, using Strava isn’t really optional. The website that tracks scores and whatnot reads data from Strava, so you only get credit for miles logged there.

[Steve O]

@Zurichman 101458 wrote:

I would like to join the frozen saddle contest. I doubt if I could join any happy hours as I live 90 miles away in rural Pa. and just want to ride my bike. A weekly goal for me in Jan would be 50 miles a week. I will be logging my miles on Bikejournal.com not strava.

Zman

Actually, Freezing Saddles is a regional game for cyclists in the DC area. If you like the idea, I would recommend you create a similar game in your area. Thanks for your interest, though. If you are ever in the DC area, perhaps you can come to one of our regular gatherings: coffee clubs, happy hours, etc. We’d love to meet you.

[hozn]

Also worth noting that the competition tracking source code is all open-source; you are welcome to use it/adapt it. https://github.com/hozn/bafs

[consularrider]

@Zurichman 101458 wrote:

I would like to join the frozen saddle contest. I doubt if I could join any happy hours as I live 90 miles away in rural Pa. and just want to ride my bike. A weekly goal for me in Jan would be 50 miles a week. I will be logging my miles on Bikejournal.com not strava.

Zman

Just want to welcome you to this forum as another bikejournal.com aficionado.

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