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October 24, 2014 at 4:42 pm #1013002
DismalScientist
ParticipantYou’ll need to get the lock ring off, perhaps with a hammer and screwdriver or a special tool. Getting the cog off requires a chain whip or sometimes backpedaling hard with the rear wheel in place. Regular pedaling will tighten the cog. You will need the same right tool or lack thereof to retighten the lock ring. Whether you need to remove links depends on how much room you have to work with in your horizontal (?) dropouts.
October 24, 2014 at 4:47 pm #1013004jrenaut
Participant@DismalScientist 97824 wrote:
You’ll need to get the lock ring off, perhaps with a hammer and screwdriver or a special tool. Getting the cog off requires a chain whip or sometimes backpedaling hard with the rear wheel in place. Regular pedaling will tighten the cog. You will need the same right tool or lack thereof to retighten the lock ring. Whether you need to remove links depends on how much room you have to work with in your horizontal (?) dropouts.
I am not getting a hammer anywhere near my bike.
I might try to get to the bike repair session at Annie’s Ace Hardware rather than buying some more tools I won’t use very often.
October 24, 2014 at 5:10 pm #1013011DismalScientist
ParticipantWell, you could always use an old bottom bracket cup tool. You have one of those, don’t you?
October 24, 2014 at 5:30 pm #1013015jrenaut
ParticipantNo hammers near any part of the bike.
October 24, 2014 at 5:33 pm #1013016MattAune
ParticipantI run 70 gear inches with a 42/16. It is on the small side, but I don’t have any problem spinning 120+ for long stretches and routinely get up to 170 rpm on the hills in my neighborhood. I find it better than to have to mach at 45 rpm up the same hills.
October 24, 2014 at 5:45 pm #1013018vvill
Participant@jrenaut 97826 wrote:
I am not getting a hammer anywhere near my bike.
I might try to get to the bike repair session at Annie’s Ace Hardware rather than buying some more tools I won’t use very often.
I have a lockring tool you can borrow if you like. It’s not even mine, but it’s a long-term loaner from a friend who doesn’t currently own a fixed gear.
October 24, 2014 at 7:26 pm #1013022dcv
Participant@jrenaut 97837 wrote:
No hammers near any part of the bike.
I have a lockring tool you can borrow, Matt Aune has it
October 24, 2014 at 7:39 pm #1013024TwoWheelsDC
ParticipantI have the proper tools as well (lockring tool and 1/8 and 3/32 chainwhips).
October 24, 2014 at 7:44 pm #1013025DismalScientist
ParticipantChainwhips are specialized between 1/8 and 3/32? Wow…
October 24, 2014 at 7:46 pm #1013026jrenaut
Participant@TwoWheelsDC 97846 wrote:
I have the proper tools as well (lockring tool and 1/8 and 3/32 chainwhips).
Since you’re already helping me pull and re-lube the bottom bracket, maybe I just need to come to your house with some beer.
October 24, 2014 at 8:05 pm #1013029TwoWheelsDC
Participant@DismalScientist 97847 wrote:
Chainwhips are specialized between 1/8 and 3/32? Wow…
It’s not impossible to remove a 1/8 cog with a 3/32 chain whip, but it can be damn near if the cog is on tight enough. Given the relatively low cost, I prefer to have the right tool for the job rather than trying to make the wrong tool work.
October 24, 2014 at 8:48 pm #1013034dkel
Participant@TwoWheelsDC 97851 wrote:
It’s not impossible to remove a 1/8 cog with a 3/32 chain whip, but it can be damn near if the cog is on tight enough. Given the relatively low cost, I prefer to have the right tool for the job rather than trying to make the wrong tool work.
Said the guy who uses a screwdriver and a hammer to remove a locking. :rolleyes:
October 24, 2014 at 9:33 pm #1013036DismalScientist
ParticipantYou’re mixing us up. The trick Jan showed me involved a short piece of chain, a rag, and a vise.
November 16, 2014 at 10:28 pm #1014846jrenaut
ParticipantSo, I think I’d like to go to 16 or 15 in the back. However, I’d really like to keep the 18 on the other side (currently freewheel). That way I could switch when I expect a lot of hills or whatever and have the taller gear for longer flatter rides.
What do I need to do to switch the flip-flop from fixed/free to fixed/fixed? And I think I want to get the tools. They aren’t that expensive. Is there a particular thing people recommend?
November 17, 2014 at 12:09 am #1014850vvill
Participant@jrenaut 99754 wrote:
So, I think I’d like to go to 16 or 15 in the back. However, I’d really like to keep the 18 on the other side (currently freewheel). That way I could switch when I expect a lot of hills or whatever and have the taller gear for longer flatter rides.
What do I need to do to switch the flip-flop from fixed/free to fixed/fixed? And I think I want to get the tools. They aren’t that expensive. Is there a particular thing people recommend?
Your hub comes as either fixed/free or fixed/fixed. You can’t really put a fixed cog on a freewheel threaded side (you technically can, but there’d be no lockring, so it’s not recommended).
If you want fixed/fixed you have to get a wheel built with a fixed/fixed hub.
One option could be to get a “dixed” (double fixed) gear cog. I think Surly makes them. http://surlybikes.com/parts/drivetrain/dingle_cog
Your chainline will be a little less perfect though, and you have to make sure your chain length is right for both (although that’s true if you had 16 and 18 on either side anyway).Btw, 48-15 is really quite a tall gear (48-16 is already a bit higher than what most city/urban fixed gear riders would run, I think, although I know Dirt and OneEighth often run 48-16.)
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