Elevation per mile pointless prize

[musclys]

@AlanA 172920 wrote:

I’m not actually being serious. I’m just trying to make things entertaining around here.

And if you’ve ever been to a concert around here, everyone is pretty much chill. However, driving around here is another story!

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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[bob_dc]

@AlanA 172917 wrote:

Ok. Since this in an internationally sanctioned bicycling event, I think that we need to have a “sampling” after the competition to prevent “doping”.

The top three finishers will need to provide the prize awarder with their Garmin’s (or whatever it is they use). The awarder will than go on a randomly chosen 40 mile ride with each of the units attached to his bike to determine the “doping” effect. The results will then be adjusted accordingly well in time before the year end happy hour. I will even be happy to help with this, and help defray the costs of beer needed to present at the final happy hour.

This is a valid point, I must admit. Given the history I’ve had with my Garmin 500 (and 510) freezing up or losing a ride, I usually ride with a second device. I find the 500 *usually* pads the elevation by about 5 to 10 %, but not always. In fact, it has fallen short by the same amount compared to other devices. I am not sure if this is true of all Garmin 500’s or if it depends on which vendor Garmin used for the barometer during installation. The other thing that can dope a ride’s climbing is if you stop mid-ride and bring it inside (I haven’t done this during FS18 BTW!). Eat lunch, then go back outside. The temp difference from it warming up can suddenly pad your elevation maybe a couple hundred feet!

[bob_dc]

@bmillah 172776 wrote:

Better watch your back. It looks like Laura M. of the Titanium Geraniums, has everyone beat. She’s clocking in at an astounding 110 ft/ mile. If she can maintain while meeting the threshold of 29,029 she’ll beat us all!

I think there must be others because it’s hard to fish out all those stacked up circles of riders below 15K feet. Seems Dane is also doing well in this category as well as some others where I can’t pick out their name. There are sleeper candidates and riders with less mileage quota have a distinct advantage. It is basically easier to ride 50 miles with 100+ft/mile vs 150 miles with that same requirement.

Brad G is also doing well (team Tardigrades).

[AlanA]

I’ve already decided that I’m pretty much toast for this competition. But I will certainly keep on plugging away with my shitty Garmin that records about 90% of my actual elevation!!

Maybe I’ll find the winner and have them give me a beer after I introduce myself.. That would make me very happy!!

However, I WILL be the biggest circle on the distance/elevation/speed page on these nonsensical pages you (we) have come up with. I’ve also conceded the mileage king, because I can’t log in that many miles while doing all these “fun” hills.
If anyone has a bigger circle, I will by them a six-pack of their favorite beer.

lol, and I guess I need to add this to one of the prizes.

[Judd]

@AlanA 172962 wrote:

I’ve already decided that I’m pretty much toast for this competition. But I will certainly keep on plugging away with my shitty Garmin that records about 90% of my actual elevation!!.

I’m still selling Alan’s elevation. Only 5 bucks. Package deal with email address for $7.50.

[AlanA]

@Judd 172963 wrote:

I’m still selling Alan’s elevation. Only 5 bucks. Package deal with email address for $7.50.

Hey, wait!! You’re selling that, too!!! No fair!!!!

You DC people will do anything for extra cash!

[Subby]

@AlanA 172962 wrote:

However, I WILL be the biggest circle on the distance/elevation/speed page on these nonsensical pages you (we) have come up with. I’ve also conceded the mileage king, because I can’t log in that many miles while doing all these “fun” hills.
If anyone has a bigger circle, I will by them a six-pack of their favorite beer.

put your rulers away boys, I think we have a wiener.

[AlanA]

@Subby 172966 wrote:

put your rulers away boys, I think we have a wiener.

But wait!! I drive a mild-mannered car (very rarely). I do not have a big wiener like some of those macho guys have!!

[vvill]

@bob_dc 172959 wrote:

I am not sure if this is true of all Garmin 500’s or if it depends on which vendor Garmin used for the barometer during installation. The other thing that can dope a ride’s climbing is if you stop mid-ride and bring it inside (I haven’t done this during FS18 BTW!). Eat lunch, then go back outside. The temp difference from it warming up can suddenly pad your elevation maybe a couple hundred feet!

Two Garmin 500s will give different results for the same ride. The barometric altimeters and thermometer inside aren’t that accurate/consistent between Garmins. Though barometer based calculations are arguably better than GPS track based elevation estimates, even if they’re highly susceptible to weather changes (and heavy rain will kill recorded elevation). I have two barely working 500s and a 520 and even though I know one of the 500s gives the most elevation relative to the others, and the 520 gives the least (typically 10-15% less than folks I ride with), I just use the 520 because it’s the best at everything else and does Bluetooth sync’ing.

[hozn]

You could always change the rules to only count rides that had been “elevation corrected” in Strava. That would level the playing field …

[Vicegrip]

@hozn 173007 wrote:

You could always change the rules to only count rides that had been “elevation corrected” in Strava. That would elevate the playing field …

fxd.

[AlanA]

Apologies if I may have come across as a pompous ass in some of last nights posts.

Football + a few too many drinks = dumb posts.

I think I’ll just stick to riding my bike in the future.

[QuikAF77]

@AlanA 173047 wrote:

Apologies if I may have come across as a pompous ass in some of last nights posts.

Football + a few too many drinks = dumb posts.

I think I’ll just stick to riding my bike in the future.

I think I should have a breathalyzer to unlock my computer and phone sometimes…

[musclys]

@hozn 173007 wrote:

You could always change the rules to only count rides that had been “elevation corrected” in Strava. That would level the playing field …

I don’t know how to make this workable, but I think Hans is on to something. There is such a variability across devices that the best way to normalize the elevation gain is to use the same source for everyone. Correcting elevation on strava sucks, but it would suck roughly equally for everyone.

What I don’t know is if there is a way the API could communicate the rides for which the elevation has been corrected, because as far as I know, Strava doesn’t publicly ID that.

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[AlanA]

@musclys 173630 wrote:

I don’t know how to make this workable, but I think Hans is on to something. There is such a variability across devices that the best way to normalize the elevation gain is to use the same source for everyone. Correcting elevation on strava sucks, but it would suck roughly equally for everyone.

What I don’t know is if there is a way the API could communicate the rides for which the elevation has been corrected, because as far as I know, Strava doesn’t publicly ID that.

lol, I know I’m not like most people (and that statement alone should win me a prize!). But there is no way that I’m am going to let Strava do a bogus correction and cheat me out of more elevation (especially when my results are always about 10% lower than Ride with GPS). Even for a 6 pack of premium craft beer!!! My ride for today is a perfect example of how this would work. My elevation on Ride with GPS was just over 5,000′. Strava (with no correction gave me a bit over 4,500′), and using the correction (I did it through Garmin Connect since they are the same as Strava) and is was 3,200′. And as I said, I am not like most people! I have topo maps, and I look at the topo maps on Strava, and have a fairly good idea of what type of climbing I do based upon my familiarity with the roads. I regularly look at the elevation page that also shows the total ascent page, and my Garmin always reduces the total ascent based upon elevation changes. But then again, I’m just rambling on about nonsense here. I don’t think there are many people out there like me. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I was a CPA/tax person for 30+ years, so my life has been spent revolving around numbers.

I guess things were simpler when people just had Cateye’s. Then, the only issue was being off by a few tenths of a mile on a 50 mile ride.

I’ll just grin and bear it, and realize that this is just a fun/dumb game to help pass the winter months and maybe meet some new people and do things you haven’t done before. I mean, how many of you follow the sock competition? People (especially Sarah Bee) have some very cool socks!!

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