Cyclist struck on 1st NE at K (NoMa/Union Station area)
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July 23, 2019 at 4:53 pm #1099887
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ParticipantYuck. I had a similar experience 2 weeks ago while headed southbound a block away, also on 1st St but at L St. Driver was turning left into me instead of right. (He ignored the left turn arrow, which was red.) Luckily, I had been watching him drive down 1st Street and had a nice preview of his terrible and aggressive driving when he tried to turn into me. I managed to stop in time and appreciated the righteous anger of the cyclists behind me. I hope this individual is ok. Glad a witness stepped up.
July 23, 2019 at 5:05 pm #1099888jrenaut
ParticipantI was just going to say, a mom from my kids’ school was hit at 1st and L taking the kids home from school on the longtail about a year ago. Everyone was ok, but that area sucks. I think the only solution is to put red/green turn arrows for both right and left turns. It’s the only way to get drivers to stop running people over
July 23, 2019 at 7:10 pm #1099890scoot
ParticipantOr … put the southbound bike lane on the southbound side of the street?
July 23, 2019 at 8:11 pm #1099892jrenaut
Participant@scoot 192305 wrote:
Or … put the southbound bike lane on the southbound side of the street?
People have been hit by left turners and by right turners. I don’t think that’s going to help
July 23, 2019 at 8:29 pm #1099893bentbike33
Participant@jrenaut 192307 wrote:
People have been hit by left turners and by right turners. I don’t think that’s going to help
But which way were the cyclists going, with or counter the car traffic in the adjacent lane?
July 23, 2019 at 9:00 pm #1099894jrenaut
Participant@bentbike33 192308 wrote:
But which way were the cyclists going, with or counter the car traffic in the adjacent lane?
Not sure, but I don’t think it matters. There are pedestrians on either side of the street as well – clearly drivers just aren’t looking.
July 23, 2019 at 9:19 pm #1099895LhasaCM
Participant@jrenaut 192309 wrote:
Not sure, but I don’t think it matters. There are pedestrians on either side of the street as well – clearly drivers just aren’t looking.
They’re not. There are left turn arrows for 1st street traffic turning onto K (both directions) and L (southbound 1st to eastbound L). I don’t know how many times in the mornings and evenings the arrow turns green, and the driver doesn’t move because they’re too busy looking down at their phone or whatever, and then try to floor it as it turns red or just miss out on the light cycle.
Not to say that ALL drivers are bad…this stretch of road just seems to see a lot of bad ones.
July 24, 2019 at 2:54 am #1099899scoot
ParticipantI would be curious to learn if collisions along this cycletrack have disproportionately affected southbound cyclists. (And for other facilities of similar designs.)
One would expect that drivers are far more accustomed to seeing bicyclists riding on the right edge of a street than bicyclists riding on the left edge of a street. So perhaps they are more likely to check for cyclists approaching from the south than for “salmons” coming from the north? Yes, pedestrians do travel both ways, but at much lower speeds.
July 24, 2019 at 5:38 pm #1099903jrenaut
ParticipantJuly 25, 2019 at 2:34 pm #1099909gibby
ParticipantThis is just a bad stretch of road with so many modes of transport on a narrow road. 1st & K is probably the worst spot with too many NB right turners just not caring if there’s a bike, pedestrian, scooter in the bike lane or crosswalk (not to mention cars stopping to let passengers out–into the bike lane). Since we’re all kinda mooshed in together, everyone gets equal time in “^&%^&(*&^(*&”.
But once you survive that, or come downhill NB, running the gauntlet of metro riders bolting out of the exit (wearing headphones) and not looking at all (didn’t your mother ever tell you…’) can be just as harrowing.
Ya just gotta pay attention and Expect the Stupid.July 25, 2019 at 3:20 pm #1099910bentbike33
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