Cyclist harassing female joggers on the W&OD

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  • #1054206
    TwoWheelsDC
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    @jrenaut 141938 wrote:

    https://twitter.com/ilovejojoandmat/status/745616703829192704

    Tweet is sharing an image so I can’t cut/paste, but some guy is regularly yelling at female joggers, veering towards them, and threatening to hit them. Vienna/Falls Church area, pretty early in the morning.

    I hope the next group of women beats the shit out of him (metaphorically, of course!).

    #1054212
    Drewdane
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    @TwoWheelsDC 141939 wrote:

    I hope the next group of women beats the shit out of him (metaphorically, of course!).

    I’d be okay with non-metaphorically.

    #1054215
    sjclaeys
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    My wife’s running friends have complained to me about him. He has also harassed women runners near Blumont. Some are thinking about staking out with a camera to get a picture.

    #1054219
    bobco85
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    @jrenaut 141938 wrote:

    https://twitter.com/ilovejojoandmat/status/745616703829192704

    Tweet is sharing an image so I can’t cut/paste, but some guy is regularly yelling at female joggers, veering towards them, and threatening to hit them. Vienna/Falls Church area, pretty early in the morning.

    Here’s the text of the message in that pic:

    This morning at 6:25 a group of 6 women, running west two abreast, were aggressively threatened by a male biker going east between Adahi and Cedar between Vienna and Falls Church. He was traveling fast and looked directly at our group and yelled at us “Get out of the way or I’m going to RAM you” and veered towards them purposefully and crossed the yellow line not slowing down one bit.

    Male, Caucasian, Our guess is in his 50’s, greying hair, solid build, red jacket, dark blue or grey road bike– Only yells at female runners, not males or other bikers. This has been going on for quite some time and we need help getting him off the trail. The trail is not just for bikers, and our group is always very respectful of the bikers and we do not cross the line into the other lane.

    I hope they catch this asshat (I rarely use this term, but it really seems to fit this person).

    #1054242
    Vicegrip
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    Grrr. I ride the WOD west at about that time every day. I know the gang of 6 mentioned and say “good morning ladies”often. Always a nice good morning back 3 days a week

    Will keep an eye out for the asshat.

    BTW I am a graying 50 something on a silver/gray bike and often an asshat but i don’t yell at other trail users. (Much) To describe a cyclist as an older graying guy narrows the pool down by about 10%:rolleyes:

    #1054251
    rcannon100
    Participant

    You might tell them (a) about strava flyby and (b) about sports cameras.

    #1055634
    viennabiker
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    Wonder if this is related–from the Vienna Police Highlights:
    Suspicious Person 16-006210
    W&OD Trail and Talahi Road, SE
    July 19 11:26 a.m.
    Several citizens called stating there was a male subject “stalking” female subjects on the W&OD
    trail. A citizen pointed out the male subject to bike officers who were patrolling the trail. LT.
    Taylor, MPO Seitz, MPO Lose, and PFC Kiley made contact with subject and determine no
    criminal activity was taking place. However, the officers informed the male subject his behavior
    was inappropriate, he agreed and left without further incident.

    [https://www.viennava.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/3225%5D

    #1055663
    Subby
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    God nothing puts me on tilt more than cowardly middle-aged a-holes like this mouthbreather. I am ready to set up an elaborate sting to catch him in the act. Just say the word. 😡

    #1055664
    AFHokie
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    They aren’t all middle-aged. After cat calling her, a kid ~14 came up behind and “tapped” my gf’s arm in Bancroft park a couple weeks ago while she was jogging.

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    #1055677
    rcannon100
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    The Cops may have copped out as well. Stalking is in fact a crime, whether they want to be bothered about it or not.

    #1055678
    AFHokie
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    @rcannon100 143532 wrote:

    The Cops may have copped out as well. Stalking is in fact a crime, whether they want to be bothered about it or not.

    I wouldn’t say they copped out. It sounds like they did about as much as they could based on the information given.

    Inappropriate actions don’t equal illegal. From the description, he’s certainly creepy, but unfortunately not enough for a stalking or harassment charge to stick.

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    #1055684
    peterw_diy
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    ISTM that any runner could video record themselves telling him not to follow him. If he does it again, that’s a class 1 misdemeanor in VA — see http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter4/section18.2-60.3/

    The second offense (within 5 years) is a felony.

    In this case, I think the police warning could be construed as the creep “being given actual notice” (the law does not require the stalkee to give the notice) so the next incident, *if it involves any of the same women*, could result in arrest — and, if convicted, possible jail time.

    #1059279
    viennabiker
    Participant

    It’s still going on. From the Vienna Police Highlights (https://www.viennava.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/3342)

    Suspicious Person 16-008991
    W&OD Bike Trail
    October 20 5:17 p.m.
    Sgt. Kiley received information from citizens advising of a male subject riding his bike in
    proximity of the W&OD Bike Trail acting suspicious. The male was riding ahead of females,
    then concealing himself and jumping out to follow them. Officers located and spoke to the man.
    They recognized him as the same individual they had previously spoken to about similar
    behavior.
    Sgt. Kiley notified the Director of the W&OD Trail and advised him of the on-going behavior of
    the man and will follow up with him.

    #1059395
    Terpfan
    Participant

    @viennabiker 147747 wrote:

    It’s still going on. From the Vienna Police Highlights (https://www.viennava.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/3342)

    Suspicious Person 16-008991
    W&OD Bike Trail
    October 20 5:17 p.m.
    Sgt. Kiley received information from citizens advising of a male subject riding his bike in
    proximity of the W&OD Bike Trail acting suspicious. The male was riding ahead of females,
    then concealing himself and jumping out to follow them. Officers located and spoke to the man.
    They recognized him as the same individual they had previously spoken to about similar
    behavior.
    Sgt. Kiley notified the Director of the W&OD Trail and advised him of the on-going behavior of
    the man and will follow up with him.

    Ha, he got pissed they called the cops on him. Serves him right to get caught again.

    I didn’t really think stalking fit the description from the first few posts, more just an aggressive ahole, but this one definitely fits the stalking definition.

    #1061716
    viennabiker
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    @rcannon100 143532 wrote:

    The Cops may have copped out as well. Stalking is in fact a crime, whether they want to be bothered about it or not.

    This, from the Vienna police highlights, may be connected. If so, it indicates that Vienna police, Fairfax County police (the area where the harassment was taking place straddles the Vienna town line), and the Northern Virginia Regional Park Authority did take action.
    Police Service 16-010372
    Vienna Police Station
    215 Center Street, South
    December 8 1:16 p.m.
    Officers from our department along with the Fairfax County Police Department and the Park
    Manager for the W&OD Trail served a trespass notice on a man who has been acting suspicious
    on the trail. This notice bans the man from the trail for one year. He was advised that he could
    be charged with Trespassing if he violates this notice.

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