Cyclist Dies After Being Struck By Truck On M Street NW
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July 9, 2018 at 10:58 pm #1088283
jrenaut
ParticipantOne block before that about a month ago I had a lovely interaction with a driver making a blind right turn without even imagining that I might be there.
My condolences to the family and friends of the cyclist. I’m sure Mayor Bowser sends thoughts and prayers.
July 10, 2018 at 2:52 am #1088284lordofthemark
ParticipantI presume the signaling will change now (and maybe daylight the intersection). So horrible that someone has to die for that to happen.
July 10, 2018 at 1:47 pm #1088290streetsmarts
Participant@lordofthemark 179420 wrote:
I presume the signaling will change now (and maybe daylight the intersection). So horrible that someone has to die for that to happen.
For those of us who are new at traffic planning stuff – can you explain daylighting the intersection please? and re signaling – there would still be a right turn on red, right? So how would a change in signaling have helped?
July 10, 2018 at 1:56 pm #1088291Mariner
Participant@streetsmarts 179427 wrote:
For those of us who are new at traffic planning stuff – can you explain daylighting the intersection please? and re signaling – there would still be a right turn on red, right? So how would a change in signaling have helped?
Not sure what daylighting is … maybe clearing away any visual obstructions? Such as parked cars?
Signalling would prevent a vehicle from turning right across the cycle path. I am actually shocked this is not already in place at this intersection. Maybe G-Street view is out of date (that area of M was repaved recently), but not having a protected cycle for both motor vehicles and bicycles is a big oversight.
July 10, 2018 at 3:08 pm #1088292jrenaut
ParticipantTurning right on New Hampshire from M is basically a U-turn and should be illegal.
I haven’t heard details, but adjusting the light timing would be complicated. I’ve NEVER had to stop at this light. A leading pedestrian interval (LPI – where the ped light goes green before the car light, bikes can go on the ped light in DC) wouldn’t do much unless you retimed all the surrounding blocks, which would probably mean retiming half of downtown.
M and L remain poorly thought-out and poorly executed. I would never let my children use either of them, and wouldn’t even be that comfortable carrying them there on the longtail.
July 10, 2018 at 4:05 pm #1088294scoot
Participant@jrenaut 179419 wrote:
One block before that about a month ago I had a lovely interaction with a driver making a blind right turn without even imagining that I might be there.
I would blame the street design more than the driver here. That car does not appear anywhere in your video until you emerge from behind the last SUV. If you hide the bike lane behind parked vehicles, it shouldn’t be surprising that more drivers will forget about its existence.
If DDOT wants protected bike lanes on these streets, they should eliminate all of the parking. There are too many intersections and driveways. Otherwise, they should keep the bike lane to the left of the parking, so that drivers will actually see it.
I feel much safer taking the lane than riding the PBL on M Street. I will use the bike lane to bypass congestion (and I wish it continued through Georgetown for this reason!), but only very slowly and cautiously.
July 10, 2018 at 4:12 pm #1088295scoot
ParticipantAs an aside: could DDOT legally create and enforce a height limit for parking alongside such a PBL? I don’t believe I’ve ever seen “compact cars only” signs on public street parking, but it would reduce the design danger and is thus worth considering.
Those last three vehicles you rode past were basically 6-ft high opaque walls. If that parking were restricted to shorter vehicles only, you and the driver would presumably have been able to see each other much sooner.
July 10, 2018 at 5:21 pm #1088298jrenaut
ParticipantI’m pretty sure the last car was illegally parked. Not being able to see me doesn’t entirely excuse the driver – you don’t make a turn through a lane without checking to see if it’s occupied. But yes, most of the problems with M are design, followed by enforcement, with human nature bringing up the rear.
July 10, 2018 at 9:00 pm #1088304dasgeh
Participant@jrenaut 179437 wrote:
I’m pretty sure the last car was illegally parked.
In the video, you can clearly see the parking line and the parking meter, implying it’s legal.
July 10, 2018 at 9:03 pm #1088305jrenaut
Participant@dasgeh 179443 wrote:
In the video, you can clearly see the parking line and the parking meter, implying it’s legal.
Ah, so you can. I stand corrected. That’s REALLY on DDOT then.
July 10, 2018 at 10:13 pm #1088306Judd
ParticipantThere will be a ride of silence to mourn the needles death of Jeffrey Long. The ride is on Thursday, July 12th. Meet in front of Peet’s Coffee at 1156 15th St NW starting at 5:15. Ride starts at 5:30.
Full details here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/667288696971085/July 11, 2018 at 1:33 pm #1088311mstone
Participant@jrenaut 179444 wrote:
Ah, so you can. I stand corrected. That’s REALLY on DDOT then.
If you’re talking about taking away parking, it’s clear that your priorities are just all wrong.
July 13, 2018 at 3:23 pm #1088414elbows
ParticipantHaven’t seen any coverage of the ride. What am I missing?
July 13, 2018 at 4:09 pm #1088416dasgeh
Participant@elbows 179562 wrote:
Haven’t seen any coverage of the ride. What am I missing?
It was all over twitter.
July 13, 2018 at 4:25 pm #1088418Judd
Participant@elbows 179562 wrote:
Haven’t seen any coverage of the ride. What am I missing?
Channel 5 and Channel 7 were there. Channel 5 interviewed Rachel before the ride. Luz Lazo from the Washington Post was there with a photographer. I haven’t seen anything air or go to press yet.
Lots of Twitter and Facebook activity.
There is stuff going on behind the scenes.
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