Custis Trail Users Have My Sympathy
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March 23, 2012 at 7:25 pm #938244
Rootchopper
ParticipantIn India, bell and horn use is the opposite of the US. Everyone uses their bells and horns constantly. It’s as if they have a sonic force field around themselves. Of course, we don’t have cows and goats on our streets either. Imagine the Custis Trail with livestock thrown into the mix.
March 23, 2012 at 8:06 pm #938245consularrider
Participant@Rootchopper 17028 wrote:
Imagine the Custis Trail with livestock thrown into the mix.
Hmmm…squirrels, rabbits, dogs, cats, deer, racoons, foxes, coyotes, groundhogs, chipmunks, turtles, snakes, various birds (ducks, geese, crows, etc) – all reported on the Custis. While most are not domesticated livestock, they sure keep you on your toes. Just wait until we are having to deal with escaped backyard chickens,
March 23, 2012 at 8:14 pm #938246JimF22003
ParticipantLast night on the wooden causeway by Roosevelt Island on the MVT, a guy who was old enough to know better (i.e. older than me), was sitting up, pedaling, and using both hands to manipulate his cell phone, and sloooowwwwly drifting into oncoming traffic. I gave him a “heads up” as I passed but he didn’t even glance up. There’s not a lot you can do about some forms of idiocy.
March 23, 2012 at 10:27 pm #937433Mark Blacknell
Participant@Rootchopper 17028 wrote:
In India, bell and horn use is the opposite of the US. Everyone uses their bells and horns constantly. It’s as if they have a sonic force field around themselves. Of course, we don’t have cows and goats on our streets either. Imagine the Custis Trail with livestock thrown into the mix.
OK HORN PLEASE.
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I feel like there should just be a macro button for this discussion.
March 23, 2012 at 11:49 pm #938253JeffC
ParticipantI am a slow rider, have heavy bikes, and on both of my bikes I have rear view mirrors. I tend to get passed by about 2/3rds of the bikers in the spring/summer/fall, and most in the winter. Most of the people that I can tell are commuters (tell tale signs are backups or panniers) usually announce they are passing. Today, with the nice weather, there was an upsurge of road bikers and in the short stretch when I was on the MVT (after 14st Bridge) and Custis (until Veitch Rd), I got passed about 5 roadbikers, none of them gave a passing signal. Each time I said “Say you are passing next time” and never heard anything. I think it is a good idea to announce passing to fellow bikers because with the poor quality of the trail, many riders veer into the other lane at places to avoid rutted areas (especially true on the eastbound Custis just before the Lee Hwy overpass behind the Italian Store). Even with a mirror, I cannot always tell when a biker is approaching and making the move to pass. So just say you are passing, each and every time. It’s like driving behind a person who never gives a turn signal, it can be annoying, so just do it.
I always announce passing to peds. I appreciate the ones who stick far right and give a hand jesture that they hear me so I know they won’t do anything stupid like turn around without looking. On the odd occasion when I walk the trails, I try to stick as far right as possible. I have a dog and would never take him walking on the trail, nor would I ever take my 6 year old there for a bike ride, both are bad ideas.
Today was a great day for the Custis Trail alternate route.
March 26, 2012 at 1:25 pm #938313baiskeli
ParticipantCall your pass, please. I can’t count how many times I’ve been about to swerve to avoid something, or pass someone else, or any number of situations where I could have knocked right into someone who was passing me, but who didn’t warn me. And warn far enough in advance not to just startle me, or a pedestrian.
As for callling my own passes, I’ve switched to a bell, and I love it. Tourists don’t seem to freak out and jump to the left as often.
March 26, 2012 at 2:25 pm #938317mstone
ParticipantI’ve decided what I really need is one of those stadium air horns. I’m tired of not having a way to lay into to idiot drivers, and the bell just doesn’t cut it for getting through the windows. E.g., the sign says “no right turn on red when pedestrians are present”, I’m at the corner next to the car with a bunch of pedestrians *trying to cross during the walk cycle*, and the car decides to turn. *AIR HORN*.
March 26, 2012 at 2:33 pm #9383185555624
Participant@mstone 17117 wrote:
I’ve decided what I really need is one of those stadium air horns.
I’m thinking of getting one simply to use when the cyclists Jeff mentions — those who don’t announce their passes — pass me.
March 26, 2012 at 2:38 pm #938321Mark Blacknell
ParticipantYou can deploy those things from half a block away and make people jump. Amusing, perhaps (okay, definitely), but not really the best idea. I have one, and can’t deploy it in good conscience.
March 26, 2012 at 2:51 pm #938326Tim Kelley
Participanthttp://www.deltacycle.com/Airzound-Bike-Horn
I only use mine for alerting cars to my presence. It’s way to loud for pedestrians.
March 26, 2012 at 2:55 pm #938328OneEighth
ParticipantPersonally, I’m willing to sacrifice pretty much everything for clean lines.
But, if you don’t mind clutter: http://www.aerostich.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=air+horn&dir=desc&order=relevanceMarch 26, 2012 at 3:21 pm #938334americancyclo
Participant@brendan 17026 wrote:
Speaking of…a large poodle breed jump across its owner’s path and up at my head last week on the W&OD in Falls Church. I have the image of his snarling face about six inches in front and six inches to the right of mine burned into my mind pretty deeply. I had belled, the owner moved right and nudged her dog, which was leashed and on her right, slightly off the trail. I called the pass. I passed as wide as I could, but clearly the dog felt I was a threat and just went nuts. Apparently surprised the hell out of its owner as well, from the yelling at the dog. I wasn’t going super fast but I didn’t slow down very much either…maybe 12-14mph. Not sure if going too fast spooked it or if going fast saved me from a face bite.
Was it near the Citizens Bridge crossing of Broad St. in Falls Church? Did you have any lights blinking? There’s a woman with a large white dog that is quite friendly, but gets really aggressive when it sees a blinking light. I walk that section with blinkies when it’s dark, and the dog almost ran me down. Playful and friendly, but kinda aggro with blinky lights.
March 26, 2012 at 6:09 pm #938363brendan
Participant@americancyclo 17134 wrote:
Was it near the Citizens Bridge crossing of Broad St. in Falls Church? Did you have any lights blinking? There’s a woman with a large white dog that is quite friendly, but gets really aggressive when it sees a blinking light. I walk that section with blinkies when it’s dark, and the dog almost ran me down. Playful and friendly, but kinda aggro with blinky lights.
Perhaps a couple of road crossing east of there, yes. My front light was off and I suspect my rear light was likely off since it was still daylight for a couple of hours…though it’s possible I left it on after the Leesburg to W&OD transition. But that’s a rear light …on the big dummy, it was pretty far to the rear of where the dog was attempting to attack.
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