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October 29, 2014 at 6:43 pm #1013427
mtneer92
ParticipantGreetings… the last thread in this topic was sent in 2012… I work at the Pentagon and usually ride the W&OD home, via other ways and the Four Mile Run trail… is Columbia Pike a safe route from the Pentagon to where it connects at Four Mile Run/W&OD? Just curious to see if anything has improved on Columbia Pike as far as conditions mentioned in this thread since 2011.
TC
October 29, 2014 at 7:10 pm #1013433MattAune
Participant@mtneer92 98269 wrote:
Greetings… the last thread in this topic was sent in 2012… I work at the Pentagon and usually ride the W&OD home, via other ways and the Four Mile Run trail… is Columbia Pike a safe route from the Pentagon to where it connects at Four Mile Run/W&OD? Just curious to see if anything has improved on Columbia Pike as far as conditions mentioned in this thread since 2011.
TC
No.
Have you tried Army-Navy Drive to the 4mr trail? Have you thought about cutting through JB Myer-Henderson hall?
P.S. I also work in this monstrosity if you have any other questions.
October 29, 2014 at 7:16 pm #1013434elbows
Participant@mtneer92 98269 wrote:
Greetings… the last thread in this topic was sent in 2012… I work at the Pentagon and usually ride the W&OD home, via other ways and the Four Mile Run trail… is Columbia Pike a safe route from the Pentagon to where it connects at Four Mile Run/W&OD? Just curious to see if anything has improved on Columbia Pike as far as conditions mentioned in this thread since 2011.
TC
Hello. FWIW, my two cents is that if I were going from the Pentagon to the W&OD, I would probably take the Pike, but just after Courthouse, would scoot to the right and take some combo of 8th, 9th, to parallel the Pike and get on the W&OD via 7th St. (The combo f[your preferred Glebe crossing, hills, traffic light efficiency, distance, etc]). On the plus side, the Pike headed west by the W&OD has been repaved so that is one nice feature but you’re still dealing with few miles of close passing cars and breathing exhaust.
Also, I would occasionally throw my bike on a bus like the 16x to get to better, safer biking faster, especially if I were riding to Herndon.
October 29, 2014 at 7:54 pm #1013439chris_s
Participant@elbows 98276 wrote:
Hello. FWIW, my two cents is that if I were going from the Pentagon to the W&OD, I would probably take the Pike, but just after Courthouse, would scoot to the right and take some combo of 8th, 9th, to parallel the Pike and get on the W&OD via 7th St. (The combo f[your preferred Glebe crossing, hills, traffic light efficiency, distance, etc]). On the plus side, the Pike headed west by the W&OD has been repaved so that is one nice feature but you’re still dealing with few miles of close passing cars and breathing exhaust.
Also, I would occasionally throw my bike on a bus like the 16x to get to better, safer biking faster, especially if I were riding to Herndon.
As elbows says, biking ON Columbia Pike still sucks, but there are some nice parallel routes starting from Wayne Street West. Washington Blvd up the hill to Wayne is just abysmal though. Lots of traffic, up a hill, bad quality pavement, buses, etc.
Southgate Road >> Ft Meyer >> 2nd street and then taking the neighborhood streets down to the W&OD is far, far, far, far superior if you don’t mind the security checkpoint.
October 29, 2014 at 8:10 pm #1013444kingman762
ParticipantWhile the Pike is not ideal, I presonnaly don’t think it’s that problematic. It’s not great but if the option is not riding or taking Columbia Pike, I’d ride the Pike.
If you are coming from the pentagon your best bet is to go up southgate rd (between what used to be the navy annex and ANC) up to Ft. Myer and then taking the left on Orm to go to the Pike. Take the Pike up to Courthouse and then get on the 8/9th streek bike blvd. Or go through Ft. Myer. I wouldn’t let the Pike’s traffic stop you from riding. Particualry as you only need to be in it for a short time.
October 29, 2014 at 8:33 pm #1013448PotomacCyclist
ParticipantThere is ongoing construction for the new Washington Blvd. bridge over Columbia Pike. Expect various lane closures and detours on and off until the project is complete next summer or fall. During some weeks, the sidewalks are closed off completely on one or both sides of Columbia Pike. The lanes might be pitted with potholes and there may be construction debris everywhere. On other weeks, that area is a little better, but still far from ideal.
VDOT posts occasional updates on the project website: http://www.virginiadot.org/projects/northernvirginia/route_27-244_interchange.asp
When the project is finished, Columbia Pike will have a 10′ wide shared-use path (sidewalk), which will make that area much better for cycling. Of course, the rest of Columbia Pike will still be inconvenient and/or hazardous. The Navy Annex building has been demolished, but the old sidewalk along Columbia Pike hasn’t been improved yet. (But the last time I checked was a couple months ago. I don’t think anything has changed, but maybe someone finally decided to put down a temporary asphalt path. Probably not.)
Info on the bike boulevards: http://projects.arlingtonva.us/projects/bike-boulevards/
October 31, 2014 at 2:48 pm #1013632Alcova cyclist
Participant@chris_s 98281 wrote:
Southgate Road >> Ft Meyer >> 2nd street and then taking the neighborhood streets down to the W&OD is far, far, far, far superior if you don’t mind the security checkpoint.
I wrote a long reply, but then realized it was just a wordy way of saying exactly what chris_s said.
FWIW, so far I’ve had no trouble at any of the Myer gates w/ a Fed or military ID. The two gates on this route (Gate 1 and Hatfield) are open 24/7. Wright Gate (the one you take to go around to the north side of the cemetery) is open 5 am to 6pm for visitors and till 11pm for military.
Some useful links:
Ft Myer/Henderson Hall map: http://www.jbmhh.army.mil/web/jbmhh/JBMHH%20Maps%20&%20Directions/myermapMAR14.pdf
Ft Myer/HH access info: http://www.jbmhh.army.mil/web/jbmhh/JBMHH%20Maps%20&%20Directions/JBMHHMapsDirections.htmlOctober 31, 2014 at 3:18 pm #1013635dasgeh
Participant@Alcova cyclist 98481 wrote:
Wright Gate (the one you take to go around to the north side of the cemetery) is open 5 am to 6pm for visitors and till 11pm for military.
Some ladies on the Women & Bicycles FB group were reporting that they could bike through the Wright Gate past 6pm without a military ID.
October 31, 2014 at 3:50 pm #1013638Alcova cyclist
Participant@dasgeh 98485 wrote:
Some ladies on the Women & Bicycles FB group were reporting that they could bike through the Wright Gate past 6pm without a military ID.
That doesn’t particularly surprise me – I supposed it’s really more visitor motor vehicles they prohibit since I think they have to search them and I guess after 6pm they close down the vehicle inspection point that’s just inside the gate. I use a mil ID when I bike through there, so while I’ve been through the gate after 6pm, my experience doesn’t shed any light for those without a mil ID.
Chris
May 21, 2015 at 8:13 pm #1030660PotomacCyclist
ParticipantTraffic shift related to the Washington Blvd. bridge over Columbia Pike rebuild:
Washington Boulevard Bridge over Columbia Pike in Arlington
***** NOTICE *****
Major Traffic Shift
Between 9 p.m. Thursday, May 21 and 5 a.m. Friday, May 22, VDOT will be performing a major traffic switch on Columbia Pike (Route 244) at the Washington Boulevard (Route 27) interchange.
The traffic switch includes:
– Opening the realigned ramp from eastbound Washington Boulevard to Columbia Pike. The new ramp aligns with the S. Queen Street intersection.
– Permanently activating the new traffic signal at the S. Queen St/ramp/Columbia Pike intersection.
– Permanently removing the existing signal at Columbia Pike and S. Quinn Street.
– Permanently changing S. Quinn St to one-way, entrance only from eastbound Columbia Pike. No northbound traffic on S. Quinn St. will be permitted between 10th Street S and Columbia Pike. Also, traffic will not be permitted to turn left onto S. Quinn St from westbound Columbia Pike.This shouldn’t have a major effect on cyclists. But it appears to be a major step forward in the process of completing the new bridge. I noticed that the estimated completion date has been moved up, from Fall 2015 to Summer 2015. That could still mean August or early September. But at least it looks like it won’t be October or November.
The new bridge will include a 10-foot sidewalk. At least one block of Columbia Pike won’t be horrible for cycling. No updates on any new bike/pedestrian trails along other parts of the east end of Columbia Pike.
http://www.virginiadot.org/projects/northernvirginia/route_27-244_interchange.asp
July 9, 2015 at 7:36 pm #1033707PotomacCyclist
ParticipantIs the Washington Blvd. bridge over Columbia Pike nearing completion? The project website lists Summer 2015 as the estimated completion date. (That date was changed a couple times after the usual construction delays.)
Now there is the following notice at the top of the page:
***** NOTICE *****
On the nights of Monday, July 6 through Friday, July 10, and Sunday, July 12 through Thursday, July 16 (from 9 p.m. until 4:30 a.m. each night), VDOT will be performing milling and final paving on both Route 27 (Washington Boulevard) and Route 244 (Columbia Pike). Lanes along both Route 27 and Route 244 may shift multiple times each night to accommodate the paving operations.
The work for each night is weather dependent.
I haven’t ridden through there in a few months. Maybe I’ll take a look over the next week or two to see if the project is wrapping up.
July 10, 2015 at 1:37 am #1033728cyclingfool
ParticipantI can say from a few times I ended up driving (instead of biking :-o) from Del Ray to my current workplace in Clarendon over the last couple months that work does seem to have progressed significantly with fewer construction barrels/cones and straighter lane marker alignments.
July 10, 2015 at 2:36 am #1033732Starduster
Participant[I haven’t ridden through there in a few months. Maybe I’ll take a look over the next week or two to see if the project is wrapping up.
I deal with it daily, ferrying my wife to work. Considering I’ve nearly wiped out on the bike twice on this road, I am eagerly awaiting completion of the bridge *and* repaving of that downhill stretch of the Pike. I need that section for a Papillon ride I’m leading in August. Ft. Myer’s no longer an option, remember?
I shall gladly update.
July 19, 2015 at 4:49 pm #1034213PotomacCyclist
ParticipantI ran through there yesterday. All the sidewalks are finished. So is the bridge, from what I could tell.
What work remains? Some of the road lanes/ramps only have a base layer of asphalt, so there is a gap between some of the new sidewalks and the road. Don’t be fooled by all the smooth surfaces in that area just yet. If you ride on the sidewalk (which many people do along the Pike), watch out for those short dropoffs from the sidewalk to the road. It’s only a couple inches, but it’s abrupt and it could be a problem on road tires.
They didn’t finish the work on Thursday/Friday morning as scheduled. It shouldn’t take them too long to add the top layer of asphalt for the remaining ramps and road lanes. But that could depend on the weather.
I was running so I don’t know what the rest of the road surface is like on the eastern part of Columbia Pike. I noticed some rough patches when I walked through the crosswalks. Based on that, I’d say that the rest of the road is the same as it was before. They are only paving the sections in the bridge project area.
The new sidewalks are very wide. It might be wide enough for two-way bike traffic and pedestrians, all at the same time. At least one small section of Columbia Pike now has a decent side path.
On a separate note, the Army/DOD is not cutting the grass on the areas that will be turned over to the Cemetery. This includes the site of the former gas station on Joyce Street and the site of the former Navy Annex building. The grass and other plants are a couple feet high, including new plants/weeds on the sidewalks. It looks like a mess. Even if the land swap with Arlington County hasn’t gone through, why would they let this land look like this? Joyce St. and Columbia Pike lead up to the revered Arlington National Cemetery. Those unkempt plots make the area look like a junkyard. It shouldn’t be that difficult for the Army to order some soldiers to cut the weeds and grass. They have the equipment and the personnel.I’d send the contact person an email, but he doesn’t take too kindly to questions. I asked him a question a couple years ago about the land swap with Arlington County and the proposed bike paths along Columbia Pike. For some reason, he became very defensive about it. All I did was ask a simple question.
July 20, 2015 at 12:03 pm #1034232Raymo853
ParticipantAs someone who drives, rides, and runs through that intersection all the time, it is so much better for all three modes. It is still not 100% done.
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