Collision at Lee and N. Lynn in Rosslyn
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May 7, 2014 at 8:42 pm #1000564
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ParticipantThat is effing outrageous. W.T.F. is wrong with people? She did NOTHING wrong.
May 7, 2014 at 8:44 pm #1000565rcannon100
ParticipantIt is not uncommon for ArlCo Board Members to attend BTWD. I hope y’all will… um…. share your thoughts with any Board Members you might see.
May 7, 2014 at 9:27 pm #1000568mstone
ParticipantI hope she has a lawyer. It’s not clear to me that the park police would even have jurisdiction here. I also hope she files a complaint for the officer writing a ticket without even talking to her. That stuff just has to stop.
May 7, 2014 at 9:35 pm #1000569dasgeh
ParticipantI also hope that a certain retiring Representative could be contacted and help stop this nonsense by a certain federal agency.
May 8, 2014 at 12:27 am #1000576Rockford10
Participant“black SUV with Maryland plates.”
May 8, 2014 at 1:02 pm #1000592mstone
Participant@Rockford10 84615 wrote:
“black SUV with Maryland plates.”
when the apocalypse comes, the four horsemen ain’t gonna be on horses–they’ll be in black SUVs with Maryland plates
May 8, 2014 at 1:41 pm #1000594vern
Participant@mstone 84638 wrote:
when the apocalypse comes, the four horsemen ain’t gonna be on horses–they’ll be in black SUVs with Maryland plates
A black SUV almost took me out on Eads this morning. I didn’t catch the plate.
May 8, 2014 at 1:57 pm #1000596cyclingfool
ParticipantMay 8, 2014 at 3:46 pm #1000608Harry Meatmotor
Participant@cyclingfool 84642 wrote:
I’m 75% sure it was Maryland.
so do we now start calling muralind drivers the “75%-ers”?
May 8, 2014 at 3:47 pm #1000612jrenaut
Participant@Harry Meatmotor 84658 wrote:
so do we now start calling muralind drivers the “75%-ers”?
There’s no “D” in “murrlynn”.
May 8, 2014 at 4:19 pm #1000622OneEighth
Participant@dasgeh 84607 wrote:
I also hope that a certain retiring Representative could be contacted and help stop this nonsense by a certain federal agency.
You mean the one who is a member of the House Appropriations subcommittee that is currently considering appropriations for the Department of the Interior (under which the NPS finds itself)?
Oh yeah. No brainer.May 8, 2014 at 5:06 pm #1000626Emm
ParticipantI hope the biker here is ok, and finds a good lawyer. Like most people on here, I’ve seen too many near misses at this intersection when cars turn right without looking at the crosswalk. It’s about 2 blocks from my apartment, so I go by it almost daily, even if I’m not biking.
I’ve now begun to always stop when I’m at the corner of Lynn and Lee coming off of the Mt Vernon trail. I slow down if I see it’s a walk signal when I’m approaching the intersection, so I catch it when it changes to the do-not-walk sign. I’ve never once had a near miss when I cross right when it turns to walk–drivers seem to see the large group of cyclists/runners and give us time. It’s not a perfect plan, and a pain if I’m in a rush, but so far it’s worked well during rush hour (but not so well during the weekends…don’t ask me why).
And on the topic of black SUVs…one nearly clipped me on N. Fort Meyer in Rosslyn on Tuesday. The lane next to them was completely empty, so I have no idea why they didn’t give me any space. And yes, they had MD plates…
May 9, 2014 at 2:14 am #1000681sjclaeys
Participant@OneEighth 84671 wrote:
You mean the one who is a member of the House Appropriations subcommittee that is currently considering appropriations for the Department of the Interior (under which the NPS finds itself)?
Oh yeah. No brainer.Unfortunately, if anything is ever done in response to this incident, either regarding the intersection of doom or the National Park Police, I would be shocked. Neither our national leaders, local leaders or bicycle advocacy groups seem to want to take either issue head on. We’ll forget about it in a week, get our BTWD t-shirts and go on with no change. Sorry to be such a pessimist, but I’ve seen this happen too many times before.
May 9, 2014 at 2:45 am #1000685dasgeh
Participant@sjclaeys 84737 wrote:
Unfortunately, if anything is ever done in response to this incident, either regarding the intersection of doom or the National Park Police, I would be shocked. Neither our national leaders, local leaders or bicycle advocacy groups seem to want to take either issue head on. We’ll forget about it in a week, get our BTWD t-shirts and go on with no change. Sorry to be such a pessimist, but I’ve seen this happen too many times before.
We have a retiring member of Congress potentially on our side. Can’t discount luck
May 10, 2014 at 7:20 pm #1000814dbb
ParticipantWas surfing for some information on the jurisdiction of the USPP and came across NPS Directors Order 9
DIRECTOR’S ORDER #9: LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM
Effective Date: March 23, 2006
Duration: Until Amended or TerminatedDirector’s Order #9 (DO-9), in conjunction with Reference Manual #9 (RM-9) and United States Park Police (USPP) General Orders, establishes and defines general standards, policies, and procedures for all law enforcement functions within the National Park Service (NPS). This DO supplements section 8.3 of Management Policies 2006. DO-9, Release No. 1, March 2000, is hereby superseded and replaced.
http://www.nps.gov/policy/DOrders/DOrder9.html
2.2 Law Enforcement Authority
Inside Park Boundaries: Within national park system boundaries, the Service will fulfill its law enforcement responsibilities using NPS employees. However, the NPS is authorized by 16 U.S.C. 1a- 6(c) to appoint (deputize) another agency’s qualified law enforcement personnel as special police when it will benefit the administration of a park area. Deputations may be issued only for the purpose of obtaining supplemental law enforcement assistance when deemed economical and in the public interest, and with the concurrence of the other agency. Deputations may not be used to delegate NPS law enforcement responsibilities to state or local governments. All such appointments must be approved by the bureau director of law enforcement or his/her designee, and supported by a written agreement with the other agency at the park or national level, except when there is insufficient time because of an emergency law enforcement situation.
Outside Park Boundaries: The Service is also authorized to use appropriated funds for “Rendering of emergency rescue, fire fighting, and [other] cooperative assistance to nearby law enforcement and fire prevention agencies and for related purposes outside of the National Park System”(16 U.S.C. 1b(1)). Further, insofar as 16 U.S.C. 1b(1) does not confer arrest authority to NPS personnel who act outside park boundaries, State arrest authority is first needed before NPS personnel can enforce State law or engage in law enforcement activity outside national park system boundaries.
This authority will be used in emergency situations, only after first determining that such actions will facilitate the administration of the park or be an effective management tool for obtaining mutual assistance from other agencies. Furthermore, the authority is intended for use only in response to an unexpected occurrence that requires immediate action, which may include one or more of the following:
Emergency responses such as life or death incidents, serious injury/ fatality accident/ incident scenes, crime scenes involving the protection of human life, officer needs assistance, threats to health or safety of the public.
Emergency or law enforcement incidents directly affecting visitor safety or resource protection.
Probable-cause felonies and felonies committed in the presence of and observed by USPR, SA or USPP.
Misdemeanors committed in the presence of USPR, SA or USPP that present an immediate threat to the health and safety of the public.
The Service may not assume law enforcement responsibility outside of park boundaries (except in two exceptions relating to the USPP who under the District of Columbia Code5-201 (2001) have the same police powers as the Metropolitan Police of the District of Columbia and were given police authorities under the District of Columbia Code 5-206 (2001) enabling them to act as police officers on all Federal reservations in nine counties and one city adjacent to the District of Columbia) in lieu of the legitimate responsibilities of nearby agencies. Cooperative assistance rendered to nearby law enforcement agencies outside of park boundaries should be limited to only those actions or efforts that support or assist those agencies. -
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