Carbon Rims braking surfaces
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October 19, 2012 at 5:19 pm #953876
Dirt
ParticipantIt depends on how you use them and the brake pads you use. Like alloy rims, they will wear much faster if you ride them in the wet… particularly if you don’t clean the rims and pads after riding them in the rain.
My oldest pair of carbon rims (Reynolds) are 3 years old and have over 20,000 miles on them. The braking surface is in great shape, though there are a few little flakes at the edges on one part of the rim. It hasn’t impacted how the brakes feel or perform.
The really important thing is to use ONLY the brake pads that the manufacturer suggests. This is particularly important with Reynolds and Zipp. Fortunately the pads that both companies suggest/sell are the best for each wheel manufacturer respectively.
For a while, the blue Reynolds pads were hard to come by. I used what Reynolds had previously suggested the year before releasing their blue compound (Swiss Stop Yellow). Though these worked very well for a while, yellow brake pad material began to accumulate on the braking surface of the rim, making stopping a rather lumpy and inconsistent adventure. Switching back to the blue pads fixed the problem almost instantly. I always keep a few extra sets of Reynolds blue pads around the shop.
Some manufacturers actually make the brake pad thing pretty easy to keep on top of by providing lifetime replacement brake pads along with their wheels. When you run out of pads, contact the manufacturer and order some up. Most will charge you shipping only. Since a good set of carbon brake pads can cost $40-60, and some folks go through 2-3 sets per year, that isn’t a bad thing.
October 19, 2012 at 5:25 pm #953878Dirt
ParticipantMy general guess is that even well cared-for carbon rims will not last as long as a good set of alloy rims. I don’t really have any direct evidence of that.
For me having wheels that are at least 30% lighter is worth it.
The other question that you didn’t ask is how the brakes feel. They feel different. Modern dual pivot road brakes make them work well for me. I’ve never felt like I’ve wanted more brake… even when descending in the Alps. That said, alloy braking surfaces give better modulation and power. I’ve used SRAM Red and Force brakes, as well as 2012 Campy Super Record (Dual Pivot front and rear, and 2011 Campy Record (Dual pivot front, Single pivot rear). All have worked very well, but if I were shopping for something to be used in the mountains, I’d go with brakes that have dual pivots both front and rear. The single pivot brakes in the back definitely have better brake balance, but I’ll take the little bump in power over increased balance.
October 19, 2012 at 5:27 pm #953879Tim Kelley
ParticipantBut how do they sound??
Mine sound like little rocket ships powering down for a landing.
October 19, 2012 at 5:38 pm #953881Dirt
Participant@Tim Kelley 34012 wrote:
But how do they sound??
Mine sound like little rocket ships powering down for a landing.
I love the sound of them.
The Reynolds definitely sound a little different… even from other carbon rims.
October 19, 2012 at 5:40 pm #953882Dirt
ParticipantOne more thing….
Never ever use carbon brake pads on alloy rims, then go back to carbon rims. Small flecks of aluminum become imbedded in the brake pads, then tear up the carbon braking surface on your fancy rims. It is a very good idea to have a set of brake pads active for each set of rims.
October 19, 2012 at 6:16 pm #953888Certifried
Participant@Dirt 34015 wrote:
One more thing…. Small flecks of aluminum become imbedded in the brake pads
sounds like better braking to me!
October 19, 2012 at 6:20 pm #953889mstone
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