Brand New Bike Parking Guide for Developers Available
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January 6, 2016 at 9:22 pm #1044126
mstone
Participant@PotomacCyclist 131071 wrote:
You may want to forward a copy to the Maryland Transit Administration. They have some strange ideas about proper bike rack installation, at least at the Laurel MD MARC station.
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Someone installed these U racks side by side. Thus, the set of U racks can only accommodate about half of the bikes than it could with proper installation.
I filled out their online complaint form to notify them of the improper installation, but they may not pay attention to a single isolated complaint.
Wow, they must have run out of wave racks but come up with a clever way to make their own.
January 6, 2016 at 9:31 pm #1044129mstone
Participant@dasgeh 131075 wrote:
A Yuba Mundo is 6′ 9″. The installation guide budgets 6′ in length for each bike. The widest bike trailers about just over 3′ wide. Again, the guide budgets 2′ for bike width.
I’m not sure that it’s any more practical to require that every bike parking spot fit the largest bike on the market than it is to require that every parking garage accept the largest street-legal tractor trailer. In general terms there’s usually a spot on the end that would accommodate a big bike. Is it reasonable mandate that? I dunno. I think there’s enough win here that there’s a distinct danger of making a perfect the enemy of the good.
January 6, 2016 at 9:34 pm #1044130dasgeh
Participant@mstone 131082 wrote:
I’m not sure that it’s any more practical to require that every bike parking spot fit the largest bike on the market than it is to require that every parking garage accept the largest street-legal tractor trailer. In general terms there’s usually a spot on the end that would accommodate a big bike. Is it reasonable mandate that? I dunno. I think there’s enough win here that there’s a distinct danger of making a perfect the enemy of the good.
I don’t think anyone is advocating that every space accommodate the largest bikes. However, there are requirements for total spaces in the guide, and there is no requirement that ANY spaces accommodate family bikes.
January 6, 2016 at 9:34 pm #1044131mstone
Participant@elbows 131073 wrote:
Are there quantity-based (headcount, units, visitors, etc) minimums? If so, I missed them.
Several:
Short-Term Visitor Parking (Class III)
Residential 1 space for every 50 units
Office 1 space for every 20,000 sf
Retail 2 spaces for every 10,000 sf, up to 50,000 sf, then 1 space for each additional 12,500 sf
Hotel 1 space for every 50 units
Educational 1 space for every 10 High School students, 15 Middle School students, and 20 Elementary School studentsLong-Term Secure Parking (Class I)
Residential 1 space for every 2.5 units
Office 1 space for every 6,000 sf
Retail 1 space for every 25,000 sf
Hotel 1 space for every 10 hotel rooms
Educational 1 space for every 10 employeesIf your parking is full of abandoned bikes, that’s something to take up with the building management.
January 6, 2016 at 9:48 pm #1044132mstone
Participant@dasgeh 131083 wrote:
I don’t think anyone is advocating that every space accommodate the largest bikes. However, there are requirements for total spaces in the guide, and there is no requirement that ANY spaces accommodate family bikes.
They do accommodate family bikes, but not necessarily any arbitrarily large family bike. (Any more than mandated parking accommodates any arbitrarily large vehicle.) I guess there’s a bigger question of how big should a bike be before it makes more sense to start treating it like a car (there are already a lot of car-size parking spots out there).
January 6, 2016 at 9:54 pm #1044134dasgeh
Participant@mstone 131085 wrote:
They do accommodate family bikes, but not necessarily any arbitrarily large family bike. (Any more than mandated parking accommodates any arbitrarily large vehicle.) I guess there’s a bigger question of how big should a bike be before it makes more sense to start treating it like a car (there are already a lot of car-size parking spots out there).
Maybe. But it’s hard to get more than one kid on a “regular” size bike. Family bikes (which is becoming a common term for cargo bikes, trailers, etc) are not arbitrarily large – we’re talking 9″ longer, 12″ wider. You really want to lump that in with cars?
Best practice in this area is to require 1 cargo bike space for every X regular bike spaces. Not revolutionary or all that difficult.
January 6, 2016 at 9:54 pm #1044135Tim Kelley
ParticipantJanuary 6, 2016 at 10:16 pm #1044136elbows
ParticipantBuilding mgmt. is well aware of my concerns and is sympathetic, but not enough people complain for them to be able to justify spending the money to update the room so I’m always looking for things to point to.
We probably have a spot for every 2.5 units so I guess this won’t help me but thanks for pointing that out to me. Building mgmt. does clear out the room every 2 or 3 years. The bikes aren’t abandoned; they are owned by people who “might ride them again someday”. I wish I could take up one of the free parking spaces my condo offers for the imaginary car I don’t own, and use that to park my dang bike, but I can’t.January 6, 2016 at 10:35 pm #1044139PotomacCyclist
Participant@jrenaut 131042 wrote:
Hopefully Arlington does it better than DC would. Here, we pass laws not to cover bike parking, but to cover someone having to write regulations to cover bike parking. Then no one writes regulations for a few years. Then they finally do, and they’re not completely terrible, but no one enforces them. Muriel Bowser gives a press conference about how great she is, and everything remains exactly the same.
At least in central DC, the various BIDs have picked up a lot of the slack. The Downtown DC BID issued a press release just yesterday announcing the completion of their three-year plan to nearly double the amount of bike parking spaces in the BID’s coverage area (basically everything south of Massachusetts Ave. between 1st St and 16th St NW, to Constitution Ave, minus some small sections controlled by the federal gov’t).
There is now near-saturation coverage of bike parking in that very busy area. They went from 531 racks in 2012 to 964 today. Except for the blocks with older large federal buildings and a couple blocks on the east end of the area, nearly every single block of every street has bike racks. (The newer Reagan Building has many bike racks though.) Blocks in the busiest corridors have several racks per block. Many of the private parking garages also have bike racks, although it’s not always easy to verify which garages have racks unless you work in the building.
The Golden Triangle BID has also been busy with a bike rack program of its own. I’ve spotted more new bike racks there on multiple occasions, even though that area also has near-saturation coverage of bike racks. They cover much of the area around Farragut Square and Connecticut Ave. south of Dupont Circle.
Lower Georgetown (M St to the waterfront) has bike racks on most blocks now, something I wasn’t expecting to see until I checked it out.
The Capitol Riverfront BID (near the Navy Yard and Nationals Park) has also helped to add many new bike racks in their coverage area. Nationals Park is ringed by bike racks, plus they have the Bike Valet on game days.
Some of the more residential neighborhoods outside of the central core do not have many bike racks at all, although some of the local commercial corridors do have bike racks. But there isn’t as much of a need for bike racks in purely residential areas.
At least in DC, bike rack programs seem to be tied to the local BIDs or CID (Community Improvement District). The larger BIDs have been very active in adding bike racks to busy commercial/retail/dining areas over the past couple years. While more work needs to be done in neighborhoods without large BIDs/CIDs, at least many of the prime activity areas in DC now have near-saturation coverage of bike racks. I do think it would be useful for DC to require bike shower facilities to be added to new large buildings, if they don’t already. This would be a very big deal, considering that there are over 100 ongoing medium to large to super-large construction projects in progress in DC right now, with many more in the planning stages. I don’t know about every construction project, but I know that the developers of The Wharf at the Southwest Waterfront are planning to add hundreds of bike racks at those buildings. I’m not sure about bike shower rooms. That project will include office, residential, retail, dining and entertainment.
FYI – Nearly all of the Downtown DC BID and Golden Triangle BID bike racks are mapped on RackSpotter now. I rode down almost every single block of every single street in those areas throughout 2015. In this case, it would be accurate to say I “literally” rode or ran or walked along every single block of every street in about 99 percent of central DC (north of Independence Ave, from NoMa to Dupont Circle and lower Georgetown). Since the BIDs continued to add new bike racks into the fall and winter, I may not have mapped all of the racks. But I think I got to just about every single rack in place by late summer plus a few of the ones installed over the fall. (With photos of every single rack in those neighborhoods added to the map. Well, I might have messed up one or two of the photo uploads.) I think the info is useful. Otherwise BikeArlington wouldn’t have started the project. Plus I found it interesting to explore all the nooks and crannies of DC, good and bad, that I would never have looked at otherwise.
January 6, 2016 at 10:50 pm #1044140jrenaut
Participant@PotomacCyclist 131092 wrote:
At least in central DC, the various BIDs have picked up a lot of the slack. The Downtown DC BID issued a press release just yesterday announcing the completion of their three-year plan to nearly double the amount of bike parking spaces in the BID’s coverage area (basically everything south of Massachusetts Ave. between 1st St and 16th St NW, to Constitution Ave, minus some small sections controlled by the federal gov’t).
Sure, but our intrepid mayor loves to talk about how wonderful she is with her wonderful Vision Zero initiative. It shouldn’t be left to the BIDs to pick up the slack when the city doesn’t follow through.
January 7, 2016 at 12:04 am #1044145lordofthemark
Participant@elbows 131089 wrote:
Building mgmt. is well aware of my concerns and is sympathetic, but not enough people complain for them to be able to justify spending the money to update the room so I’m always looking for things to point to.
We probably have a spot for every 2.5 units so I guess this won’t help me but thanks for pointing that out to me. Building mgmt. does clear out the room every 2 or 3 years. The bikes aren’t abandoned; they are owned by people who “might ride them again someday”. I wish I could take up one of the free parking spaces my condo offers for the imaginary car I don’t own, and use that to park my dang bike, but I can’t.Tell them that a nice bike room looks really hip when prospective residents tour
I am convinced that is why my building redid theirs. Our old bike room is on a basement level, and required taking the bike up on an elevator and through the lobby. And getting a key from the concierge (out of luck if you want to access it before or after concierge hours – I missed at least one HDCC because the concierge got in late) And filled to the brim with seldom ridden bikes, including at least one kid’s tricycle. I alway did manage to find a space, but it was sometimes an unpleasant experience.
They have added a main level, fob accessed bike room (it was an old maintenance closet) with direct outdoor access, and numbered, reserved, hooks. I’m sure they did it for image. There were probably 60 or more bikes in the old bike room, and only a dozen are in the new one. I am not sure if they intend to keep the old one, the new one can only accommodate about 40.
January 7, 2016 at 12:04 am #1044146PotomacCyclist
ParticipantThe BIDs are working with DDOT on their initiatives. Or you could say DDOT is working through the BIDs. Either way, bike racks are being added to central DC, in a big way. Yes, there are still many bike and transportation issues that need to be addressed (bike routes, safer intersections, negligence laws and more), but bike racks in central DC isn’t one of them. As far as the racks go, does it really matter how the racks get added? Hundreds of racks have been added in high-demand areas. Many if not most of the private parking garages in central DC have bike racks or bike rooms.
Granted, these programs began before the current mayor took office. Since I’m not a DC resident, I don’t follow all the details of DC local politics so I won’t comment on that. I do know that the massive expansion of bike parking plus the introduction and expansion of Capital Bikeshare, and the construction of the protected bike lanes have radically changed my bike experience in DC. Well, mostly Capital Bikeshare and the 15th St bike lane. I don’t actually use bike racks myself that often, even though I’ve spent a lot of time mapping them. I haven’t used my bike lock in two or three years. I use CaBi (and Metro) for commuting and errands. When I ride my personal bikes, I usually do so for recreation or fitness and I stay on the bike the entire time.
January 7, 2016 at 1:36 pm #1044179huskerdont
Participant@mstone 131059 wrote:
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a garage with nothing bolted to it somewhere.
Here are the special unmounted mountable racks in my workplace in DC. Since the garage is guarded and only has one organization using it, it’s not likely anyone’s going to come in with a van and take a whole section of rack with the bikes.
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January 7, 2016 at 2:01 pm #1044181mstone
Participant@huskerdont 131135 wrote:
Here are the special unmounted mountable racks in my workplace in DC. Since the garage is guarded and only has one organization using it, it’s not likely anyone’s going to come in with a van and take a whole section of rack with the bikes.
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What I meant is that every garage I’ve ever been in has some kind of bolts. E.g., this garage looks like it has some things bolted to the walls. I don’t understand how bolting down the bike rack becomes the thing that makes the garage collapse. At the very least, epoxy them down so they don’t slide around.
January 7, 2016 at 2:10 pm #1044182huskerdont
ParticipantI no longer have the email where they announced the new racks, but my memory is that it was the floors where they felt putting in bolts would be a problem. The epoxy is a good idea.
Ever since I heard that a few little bolts were going to make the parking garage floors unsafe, I’ve curiously felt the need to get out of there as fast as possible, and never go to the lower floors.
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