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    Henry
    Keymaster

    Update 11/21/18:

    ****PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD. **** This is a post to provide a single spot for information regarding Bike Arlington Freezing Saddles (BAFS). I will update this post as needed to keep information current. If you have a question, or think that something needs to be added or changed in this post, PM me please.

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    What is Freezing Saddles, (or BAFS “Bike Arlington Freezing Saddles”)?

    Freezing Saddles is a winter riding competition for bike riders in the general DC area, organized by random people who talk to each other on the Washington Area/ Bike Arlington Bike Forum. While we organize ourselves on the BikeArlington forum, and Bike Arlington has generously donated some sort of prizes in the past, we are not run by BikeArlington. As described by a forum member, BAFS organization

    Originally Posted by Steve O:

    probably most closely resembles organizing a game of freeze tag on the grade-school playground.

    How it works, keeping in mind things can and do change year-to-year during the planning stage:

    Freezing Saddles runs from January 1 through the last full day of winter (1 second before midnight, March 19). We divide people into teams of 10 or so people, striving for competitive parity. Each team is a mix of riders who typically ride enough to qualify as insane, people who ride regularly but like sane people, people who ride occasionally, and people who have never ridden through a winter before. An attempt is made to keep the mix roughly comparable for all the teams so they are approximately evenly matched and everyone has a fair shot at being on a winning team. This is usually botched, but we ask people to fill out a registration form to the best of their ability before each year’s game to create a list of players and your expected or typical mileage. A volunteer for the year then divvies everyone up into teams using combinations of predicted miles, random selection, and sometimes preferences for regional team groupings.

    Usually sometime around Halloween, planning threads pop up on the forum (in the Freezing Saddles subforum; if you’re reading this, you’re already here), where we argue about things like e-bikes, and whether 10 points per day is the right number and other rules minutia. Past rules are subject to change in the yearly planning process. Sometime around Thanksgiving someone usually puts up the registration information. Registration typically closes on Christmas Eve, and/or when we have reached the participation limit. In recent years, we capped the number of players at 250 to try to keep the game and the data collection manageable.

    We use Strava for data collection and team organization, which means that to play, you will need a Strava account and after teams are created, you will need to join your team’s Strava group. You will also need some sort of GPS device or smartphone to track your rides. We no longer count manually entered rides (not because we don’t trust you, they just tended to cause too much data corrective work for the leaderboard techie gurus).

    We use a leaderboard application http://freezingsaddles.com/ developed and maintained by awesome forum member hozn (but being taken on by obscurerichard this year) to report on team and individual points and all kinds of other cool riding metrics with team/individual standings. Plus pictures. Players need to authorize this app to read your Strava data, or Strava rightly will not give us access to it.

    People also offer up “Pointless Prizes”, prizes for whatever kind of random things strikes the fancy of the person offering the prize. These are generally announced on postings in the Freezing Saddles subforum of the BikeArlington Forum.

    We generally have a happy hour near the start of the game to formally announce teams and after the end of the game to hand out prizes. These are fun, but attendance is not mandatory.

    And if you want to promote any of this nonsense on the Twitters or other social mediums, use the hashbrown #BAFS2019.

    Some links to get you started:

    Registration form, and description of the steps to register here.
    Whom to contact for various functions: http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?13903-2019-Freezing-Saddles-Volunteers

    2019 Rules:

    1) Scoring: Some slight changes were made to try to tighten up the Team Competition. These, of course, are again subject to change in future years!!!

    • 10 points for each day of 1 mile+ (same as before)
    • 1 point per mile (same as before)
    • Team contribution per individual capped at 100 miles per week. A week is Monday-Sunday. Partial weeks at beginning and end also have 100 miles cap on team contribution.
    • Individual rankings remain the same with no cap on the individual mileage on scoreboard.
    So the max someone can contribute to their team is 170 points per week. If they miss a day but still ride 100 miles, they get 160 points.

    2) Game runs 00:00:01 January 1 through 23:59:59 March 19 (the last day of winter). All rides starting from January 1 on count, even though teams will not be assigned until the first happy hour (typically, a week or two after that). If you are planning to get a super-early start and be out riding your bike as the year changes, be aware that rides starting *before* midnight will not be counted by the leaderboard. You need to stop your recording device and restart a new ride after midnight for your miles on January 1 to count. Similarly, you will need to end your last ride by 23:59:59 March 19 for it to count.

    3) Trainer rides don’t count. Mark your rides as such or include #NOBAFS in the title to exclude them. Take your bike outside and ride it some distance across the surface of the earth in order to earn points. Manual entries will also not be accepted. This is a change from previous years.

    4) Rides made while travelling out of the area do count. On vacation somewhere warm? Lucky you! Find a bike and ride it for some points. Somewhere extra cold? So, so sorry. Find a bike and ride it for some points!

    5) Rides made on E-assist (but not solely electric/motor powered) bikes do count, except that rides on an Elf do not. See here: Inane E-bike Debate.

    6) Anyone can award a Pointless Prize for anything. Go check out the thread for what people are offering, and feel free to join in and award something yourself. These are typically small fun or cute or symbolic things, not high dollar prizes or anything. But whatever you want! No one will probably argue about you throwing money or new bikes at them if you so desire.)

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  • #1093546
    bobco85
    Participant

    I just want to confirm: this year we are using #BAFS2019 for our general posts regarding Freezing Saddles on social media, right?

    #1093743
    Henry
    Keymaster

    @bobco85 185204 wrote:

    I just want to confirm: this year we are using #BAFS2019 for our general posts regarding Freezing Saddles on social media, right?

    That is the correct hashbrown for this year.

    #1093755
    Greenbelt
    Participant

    freezing saddles dot org dropped me from the leaderboard when we went to teams today. I’m on the strava club. Anybody else get dropped/troubleshoot? -Jeff Greenbelt team 6

    #1093757
    chuxtr
    Participant

    @Greenbelt 185443 wrote:

    freezing saddles dot org dropped me from the leaderboard when we went to teams today. I’m on the strava club. Anybody else get dropped/troubleshoot? -Jeff Greenbelt team 6

    I’ve let the powers that be know we likely have a problem.

    #1093761
    chuxtr
    Participant

    @Greenbelt 185443 wrote:

    freezing saddles dot org dropped me from the leaderboard when we went to teams today. I’m on the strava club. Anybody else get dropped/troubleshoot? -Jeff Greenbelt team 6

    Jeff – Team 6 isn’t on the team leaderboard yet. That may be the issue. It probably means the Richard either doesn’t yet know or just hasn’t had time to code the Strava club. Keep checking. If you see Team 6 on the leaderboard and don’t see your name (on either leaderboard) and you’re on the Strava club, then we may have a problem.

    #1093766
    musclys
    Participant

    @chuxtr 185449 wrote:

    Jeff – Team 6 isn’t on the team leaderboard yet. That may be the issue. It probably means the Richard either doesn’t yet know or just hasn’t had time to code the Strava club. Keep checking. If you see Team 6 on the leaderboard and don’t see your name (on either leaderboard) and you’re on the Strava club, then we may have a problem.

    Not sure this is the answer. I noticed myself and Neal (both Team 6) on the leaderboard but when I Ctrl+F for “Team 6,” no one else showed.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    #1093645
    Greenbelt
    Participant

    @musclys 185454 wrote:

    Not sure this is the answer. I noticed myself and Neal (both Team 6) on the leaderboard but when I Ctrl+F for “Team 6,” no one else showed.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Yah. Team 6 is up with 7 people on Strava but only 6 on FS.org I feel so lost!

    This Week’s Leaderboard
    jeff lemieux
    2/7

    84.4 mi
    Rank Athlete Rides
    1
    Brad Greenberg Brad Greenberg 87.6 mi 7 31.4 mi 15.0 mi/h 5,025 ft
    2
    jeff lemieux jeff lemieux 84.4 mi 8 16.6 mi 14.0 mi/h 2,114 ft
    3
    J.C. Wyss J.C. Wyss 56.0 mi 7 12.1 mi 16.1 mi/h 3,436 ft
    4
    Neal Friesen Neal Friesen 44.9 mi 6 9.7 mi 11.7 mi/h 2,014 ft
    5
    Ken Buja Ken Buja 35.6 mi 6 21.2 mi 11.2 mi/h 1,658 ft
    6
    Mia O’Connell Mia O’Connell 31.8 mi 8 11.8 mi 12.6 mi/h 1,847 ft
    7
    Katie O’Driscoll Katie O’Driscoll 18.1 mi 6 7.1 mi 11.0 mi/h 726 ft

    #1093848
    strumke
    Participant

    I seem to have fallen off of the leaderboard entirely… who should I contact to see what’s up?

    #1093849
    Greenbelt
    Participant

    @strumke 185543 wrote:

    I seem to have fallen off of the leaderboard entirely… who should I contact to see what’s up?

    For me, reauthorizing Strava got me back on: https://freezingsaddles.org/login

    #1093850
    strumke
    Participant

    @Greenbelt 185544 wrote:

    For me, reauthorizing Strava got me back on: https://freezingsaddles.org/login

    Thanks, that worked!

    #1093857
    dbehrend
    Participant

    @Greenbelt 185544 wrote:

    For me, reauthorizing Strava got me back on: https://freezingsaddles.org/login

    Same. I got dropped as well. I just reauthorized. So, I hope that works.

    #1093860
    dbehrend
    Participant

    It looks like about 60 people are missing.

    After reauthorizing, I was able to get back on.

    #1093870
    LuisFilipe
    Participant

    I got dropped off FS. I went ahead and reauthorized Strava to read my data. But in am still not on the board. Any guidance?

    #1093873
    jrenaut
    Participant

    @LuisFilipe 185565 wrote:

    I got dropped off FS. I went ahead and reauthorized Strava to read my data. But in am still not on the board. Any guidance?

    Can you confirm you have joined the strava club for your team, and not any clubs for any other of this year’s teams?

    #1093957
    LuisFilipe
    Participant

    @jrenaut 185568 wrote:

    Can you confirm you have joined the strava club for your team, and not any clubs for any other of this year’s teams?

    I had to join my teams club and it fixed the issue. Thanks JR

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