Article: Slow Down! And Four Other Ways to Make People Love Cyclists
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June 19, 2015 at 6:13 pm #916994
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June 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm #1032760
Steve O
Participant@vvill 118768 wrote:
NB: I hate the term “dad bod” even more than “normcore”.
Do you prefer “fat slob?”
June 23, 2015 at 4:54 pm #1032762Tim Kelley
ParticipantThe editor of Mobility Lab (where the article was posted) reached out to me with an idea to share with the forum: would someone here be willing to do a short (500 word or less) companion piece to the initial article? The crowd here seems to mostly be of the experienced, lifestyle-cyclist, sometimes wears lycra sometime doesn’t, type of background.
The topic would be along the same lines as the original post–but from the typical forum user’s point of view. Maybe something along the lines of “_______ & Four Other Ways that Experienced Cyclists Can Make People Love Cyclists”
americancyclo–you had a pretty good outline above?
Anyone else interested?
June 23, 2015 at 4:58 pm #1032764Tim Kelley
Participant@americancyclo 118778 wrote:
I think BikeArlington is very good at this part. I worry that the tone of the article will be present in any collaboration this summer.
Nah, don’t worry about that–no one is vilified in the videos!
Here’s some of Modacity’s previous work: http://www.modacitylife.com/cycle-chic-films/
And here’s who you’ll be seeing later this summer: http://www.bikearlington.com/pages/news-events/blog/meet-the-cast/
June 23, 2015 at 5:10 pm #1032767Anonymous
Guest@Tim Kelley 118750 wrote:
For example, we try to choose photos for our website that show people riding in normal clothes without lycra or a ton of hi-viz reflective gear (although we definitely agree that there is a place for that–we sell/giveaway BikeArlington jerseys, which are super comfortable and fantastic for doing 200 mile one day rides in, as well as reflective vests, pant straps and zipper pulls).
Well, sure, your marketing and educational literature ought to reflect the audience you’re trying to reach, and I would agree that the easiest people to get on bike are the ones who might be encouraged to hop on for a quick ride to the coffee shop or park. Absolutely, completely agree.
I think the point that Modacity is trying to get across is that biking is a fun, normal, activity that anyone can do, and all it requires is a bike.
And I think people already know this. What people don’t know is *how* to do it in a way that feels safe and stress-free. I don’t think you have a lot of people driving to the grocery store because they think they can’t ride their bikes there without putting on lycra first. What you do have is a fair number of people putting their bikes on the bike racks of their SUVs to drive their normally-dressed families to the parks and trails to take their kids for bike rides. And then making separate trips to the grocery stores and coffee shops in those same SUVs.
It’s a hard habit to break, but referring to them as “people on bikes” instead of cyclists or bikers is a subtle attempt to remind everyone that it’s not us vs. them.
Exactly. And you’ve done a pretty good job of selling us on that.
So it shouldn’t surprise you that we’re not all that enamored of articles that explicitly calls out people in lycra on expensive bikes as “Cyclists with a capital C” who are distinct from “the rest of us” and militant, extreme-sports adrenaline junkies who consider traffic laws to be mere suggestions.
Just as there are two Americas, there are two types of cyclists,
This isn’t even forgetting that it’s not us vs. them. It’s actively encouraging us vs. them. It’s just drawing the line as “lycra and carbon” vs. “everyone else” instead of “people on bikes” vs. “everyone else”.
June 23, 2015 at 5:20 pm #1032773dkel
Participant@Tim Kelley 118785 wrote:
The editor of Mobility Lab (where the article was posted) reached out to me with an idea to share with the forum: would someone here be willing to do a short (500 word or less) companion piece to the initial article?
Just don’t get rcannon to do it: he can’t spell worth a darn.
June 23, 2015 at 5:45 pm #1032777ShawnoftheDread
Participant@Tim Kelley 118785 wrote:
The editor of Mobility Lab (where the article was posted) reached out to me with an idea to share with the forum: would someone here be willing to do a short (500 word or less) companion piece to the initial article? The crowd here seems to mostly be of the experienced, lifestyle-cyclist, sometimes wears lycra sometime doesn’t, type of background.
The topic would be along the same lines as the original post–but from the typical forum user’s point of view. Maybe something along the lines of “_______ & Four Other Ways that Experienced Cyclists Can Make People Love Cyclists”
americancyclo–you had a pretty good outline above?
Anyone else interested?
Yes, as long as “…Make People Love cyclists” isn’t a required theme. I prefer respect to love.
June 23, 2015 at 5:48 pm #1032778Tim Kelley
Participant@ShawnoftheDread 118801 wrote:
Yes, as long as “…Make People Love cyclists” isn’t a required theme. I prefer respect to love.
Cool. Email me: info@bikearlington.com and I’ll put you in touch!
June 23, 2015 at 6:06 pm #1032780sjclaeys
Participant@Tim Kelley 118785 wrote:
The editor of Mobility Lab (where the article was posted) reached out to me with an idea to share with the forum: would someone here be willing to do a short (500 word or less) companion piece to the initial article? The crowd here seems to mostly be of the experienced, lifestyle-cyclist, sometimes wears lycra sometime doesn’t, type of background.
The topic would be along the same lines as the original post–but from the typical forum user’s point of view. Maybe something along the lines of “_______ & Four Other Ways that Experienced Cyclists Can Make People Love Cyclists”
americancyclo–you had a pretty good outline above?
Anyone else interested?
This “offer” from the editor of Mobility Lab strikes me the same as the Washington Post “offering” me to write a letter to the editor in response to a Courtland Milloy piece. I am sure that Shawn will write an excellent piece, but the damage from Mobility Lab running the original article is already done and Mobility Lab does not seem to want to take responsibility for that.
June 23, 2015 at 6:14 pm #1032781wheelswings
Participant@Tim Kelley 118750 wrote:
I think the biggest barrier for people is perception of safety. We need more protected bicycle infrastructure that is good for people ages 8 to 80: protected bike lanes for families and new riders to feel safe using.
My girls have grown up in the Burley-trailer and on their bikes… we do our errands by bike, I commute to work by bike, we even sleep next to our bicycles. The girls “get it” that bicycling is awesome transport and good fun too.
Moreover, we are not a risk-averse family. The girls are gymnasts, their lives filled with flips on the beam and double-flips on the floor and off the bars.
And YET it scares the heck out of me to imagine my girls bicycling around Arlington on their own, as I do, even when they’re older. This is because I know intimately the close calls I’ve had at intersections we all know to be dangerous… Lynn/Lee, Clarendon circle, Shirlington Rd at 4MR Dr., Glebe at 15th, etc.
To me, far more urgent than protected lanes is to fix the handful of truly scary intersections that we know to be a problem. I’m not saying we shouldn’t do the protected lanes and the media as well, but I think that making these nasty intersections safer would hugely change perceptions about bicycling and safety in Arlington.
June 23, 2015 at 6:18 pm #1032783Tim Kelley
Participant@wheels&wings 118805 wrote:
My girls have grown up in the Burley-trailer and on their bikes… we do our errands by bike, I commute to work by bike, we even sleep next to our bicycles. The girls “get it” that bicycling is awesome transport and good fun too.
Moreover, we are not a risk-averse family. The girls are gymnasts, their lives filled with flips on the beam and double-flips on the floor and off the bars.
And YET it scares the heck out of me to imagine my girls bicycling around Arlington on their own, as I do, even when they’re older. This is because I know intimately the close calls I’ve had at intersections we all know to be dangerous… Lynn/Lee, Clarendon circle, Shirlington Rd at 4MR Dr., Glebe at 15th, etc.
To me, far more urgent than protected lanes is to fix the handful of truly scary intersections that we know to be a problem. I’m not saying we shouldn’t do the protected lanes and the media as well, but I think that making these nasty intersections safer would hugely change perceptions about bicycling and safety in Arlington.
Like this? http://www.protectedintersection.com/
Protected intersections and protected bike lanes should go hand in hand. You are encouraged you to let your elected officials to know how you feel.
June 23, 2015 at 6:45 pm #1032788mstone
Participant@Henry 118745 wrote:
I know a nice bike-accessible meadow where we can all get together and sing Kumbayah.
Wait, I thought they decided bikes didn’t belong in the meadow?
June 24, 2015 at 1:36 pm #1032831Brendan von Buckingham
ParticipantA response article is begging for a tadpole-frog metaphor.
June 24, 2015 at 2:58 pm #1032833GovernorSilver
Participant@Tim Kelley 118807 wrote:
Like this? http://www.protectedintersection.com/
Protected intersections and protected bike lanes should go hand in hand. You are encouraged you to let your elected officials to know how you feel.
This looks cool. I’ll ask each of the candidates on the ballot for my county and precinct for the Nov. 2015 elections what he/she plans to do about improving the bike infrastructure in my neighborhood. Every time I cross the Beltway from my side of Alexandria in Fairfax to the City of Alexandria side, I’m reminded of how much better the infrastructure is there, and I also get the vibe that motorists are more used to seeing cyclists riding about.
June 24, 2015 at 3:42 pm #1032839lordofthemark
Participantlate to the party, but (and to follow up on HDCC discussion)
There are, in my opinion, two types of cyclists. Those who like to break down all cyclists into two groups, and those who do not
I fall somewhat in between. I think that there are certainly subcultures with different approaches and needs that are policy relevant – but far more than two (note even the famous Portland classification has three types)
I would say – there are 1. Folks who are training for competition (including some who commute, but mostly to get more miles in for training) These can be divided into those who do so while abiding by road and trail etiquette, and the jerks. 2. Folks with long commutes, who ride much like the above (road bikes, full kit, fast) simply because that works for their long rides to work 3. Urbanist hipsters (with and without fixies) with short rides, etc 4. Working class folks who use bikes because they are cheap transport – esp common among hispanic immigrants in the suburbs – many come from places with horrible road sharing cultures, and are particularly afraid to ride “VC style” and they lack all special gear, even lights though they often ride at night. 5. A range of slow mostly recreational riders – including older folks, families, etc. Some do some utility riding, or could be persuaded to 6. Folks with intermediate distance commutes
As for the obligation to “advocate for cycling” I confess to being an advocate in general by inclination (even when I do not spend my time as much that way as I would like) I need to remind myself though that someone participating in an activity I share, may focus their activism in other areas – the person on a bike who is not a bike advocate, who may not even be an activist on other issues that relate to transport and the environment, may instead be tutoring poor children, or working with the elderly, or something like that.
For those who do advocate for cycling – I am glad of whatever people do. Some will help by riding more as PALs than they otherwise would. Some will work in the political arena. Some will volunteer to help kids’ rides, or with places like Phoenix. Some give advice to friends and coworkers considering riding. All help, and it is no more reasonable to expect all to change their riding for optics than it is to expect all to volunteer at Phoenix, say.
As for lycra, I am currently helping to undermine the binary by riding in my jersey with cutoff shorts.
June 24, 2015 at 6:15 pm #1032883Tim Kelley
Participant@ShawnoftheDread 118801 wrote:
Yes, as long as “…Make People Love cyclists” isn’t a required theme. I prefer respect to love.
Shawn declined. Anyone else interested?
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