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December 31, 2012 at 1:24 pm #958582
americancyclo
ParticipantI’ve never used a trainer, but I do hold DCRainMaker.com in high regard for his ridiculously in-depth reviews. Here are four of his posts tagged with TrainerRoad, including a writeup from November 2011.
Let us know how you like it if you end up going that route!January 1, 2013 at 12:08 am #958623off2ride
ParticipantI used it when it was free online. I don’t fancy using the trainer at all but it comes in handy when the weather is questionable. I used it with my Garmin 800, cadence sensor and USB Ant Stick.
January 1, 2013 at 2:17 pm #958641Vicegrip
ParticipantAmericancyclo, thanks for the link. I have read some of DC rainmakers blog but not the one on trainer road.
I too would much rather be out and about but the work/home life as is is now dictates otherwise. When I am home the “My time” clock is not running even if I am just huffing and puffing and coughing up lung bits on the bike. Home keeping the kids from fighting with each other or burning the house down = + off noodling around on the bike = –
I signed up and ordered a ant+ stick. I figure it is worth a try and there is only a small pay in as I already have a Kurt fluid trainer and a nice place to do the mouse on the wheel thing. I am curious to see where my fitness is now and then after some time spent following the training programs. The goal is to become both fit and well fitted to the bike enough to tick off longer and more interesting rides with interesting people.January 2, 2013 at 7:25 pm #958687SteveTheTech
ParticipantI love this program. It works great.
I have a Forerunner 610 and the numbers recorded off of that match perfectly to my recorded workout. The horizontal view makes running it on the bottom of the screen and streaming Hulu or Netflix a breeze. It is a bit of a pain in the rear not being able to stand too frequently but that is a downfall of the trainer and not the software. The software is simple to use, it easily finds your device and its calculation of theoretical wattage is very close to what I saw using a Computrainer. It seems to calculate FTP as good as possible using cadence and speed on a trainer that has a linear torque curve.I feel like I should describe my riding and training style. I am more of a fitness cyclist, with a focus on endurance and climbing. Most of my workouts during the week are on spin bikes at the gym, or in my trainer at home. Like everyone else here my time is limited and energy is slightly harder to come by many days. There have been a few Saturdays where I could have easily been outside riding but skipped it to run a 2.5 or 3 hour workout on my trainer just because it is literally 10′ from my shower. This has decreased the hostility in my house surrounding long distance rides that typically consume many of my Sundays, if I can knock out 50+ miles in my living room and be ready to go where she wants afterwards it is a marriage saving compromise.
The two guys who are TrainerRoad seem very genuine and honest. I had a question that I emailed them, while at Eurobike the owner of the company responded within an hour I think. They are working through some software updates and some of the features are still a little Beta but the root software and the workouts that are listed on the site tend to work perfectly. I subscribe to the program at like $10/mo, and have for several months without a single complaint. I do not think I am using it enough right now to get my monies worth but now with christmas out of my living room I should have more space to setup shop.
I use a Kinetic Road Machine and it does offer a better workout than any spin class or other interval set I have tried on the bike, but I also took to the computrainer very quickly. I like watching graphs, and logging my data.
My favorite ride is the Rouge Roubaix or the sufferfest ones, if they sync to a video it tends to make time go by quicker. Fight Club (remastered) and The Pain Cave, are great 1 hour workouts. But I do tend to skip the cycling video and catch up on a series on Hulu most times as they autoplay the next episode. It is probably in my head but I always feel a good sense of accomplishment after finished the Rouge Roubaix first thing in the morning.
January 4, 2013 at 5:08 pm #958995SteveTheTech
ParticipantI ran into an aggravating issue yesterday when setting up the video I plan on watching in the background of my workout…I caught the series I was watching. So instead of spending an additional half an hour looking for just the right thing to work out too I decided to re-watch three episodes of my favorite fake news show…with much more of the crushing boredom that comes with riding inside.
Today I am going to buy a Sufferfest download (http://www.thesufferfest.com/video-sufferfests/details-angels/) and maybe a just some straight mountains for the weekend in this epicRide Beartooth Pass video (http://epicplanet.tv/catalog/dvds_downloads/). I had been actively looking for hill training and this is about the closest thing I can get into without driving out west. I do not know what 85 minutes grinding up a hill on a trainer will feel like but I can almost guarantee the uphill restarts will be a bit easier. I am going to have to hunt a little bit for a mid level recovery ride video though as a day after ride for that.
I am going after the KOM in my Tuesday group ride.
January 4, 2013 at 6:11 pm #959007Tim Kelley
ParticipantJanuary 4, 2013 at 6:17 pm #959010DaveK
Participant@Tim Kelley 39584 wrote:
Which KOM is that?
This is how it starts.
DO NOT TELL HIM ANYTHING.
January 4, 2013 at 11:48 pm #959066SteveTheTech
Participant@DaveK 39587 wrote:
This is how it starts.
DO NOT TELL HIM ANYTHING.
lol I know right. I bet he’s going to take the beautiful Felt out and set the bar to a point us mere mortals will only be able to match in car.
The agreement that keeps my marriage sound says I cannot race….officially….it makes no mention of Strava….yet. I do like to compete for fun, so let’s how long it takes to take this too far.Tim- The area I was referring to is a sprint on Belle Haven that passes the bike shop and a few of the hills back in a repeating loop. But I would never exceed the posted speed limit and brag about it publicly.
I would also like to have a better showing here (http://app.strava.com/segments/672640)., and here (http://app.strava.com/segments/2398437)January 5, 2013 at 10:58 am #959088Jason B
ParticipantSince this post, I have joined trainer road and have been loving it. It has only been a four rides, but it has really made my trainer sessions more purposeful and considerably more challenging. I am not sure how it will equate in the end, but for now I am drenched when I finish a session. I have not downloaded any of the sufferfest or related videos, not sure how they work, but I am still content starring at my HR and power. Well worth the $10 so far.
January 5, 2013 at 2:46 pm #959097Megabeth
ParticipantAfter I busted my arm and could get on the trainer, I became a fan of Sufferfest.
Each video takes you through a different series of slow spins, hard grinds, sprints, cool downs, etc. The video is of an actual race and there is usually some story behind what you’re doing or goading messages like “Don’t let that Euskie guy beat you at the top of the mountain!” or “The pack is gathering behind you, don’t let them get you at the sprint!”
It’s self motivated. Just watch the video and go. I just prop my laptop up in front of the bike.
When you are riding along there are different noises that will sound to tell you to either speed up, slow down, or get a new instruction so you don’t have to stare at the screen the whole time. (Which is good because towards the end I usually have my head down and I’m whimpering.) They also have a graphic that tells you what cadence you should be doing at what intensity. And, the music is really good and matches well with what you’re supposed to be doing.
There are slow down sections built in to catch your breath and grab your water bottle, but then it revs up soon thereafter.
By the way, the one that features women pro-racers is probably the toughest one I’ve done.
January 5, 2013 at 6:00 pm #959102Vicegrip
Participant@Jason B 39671 wrote:
Since this post, I have joined trainer road and have been loving it. It has only been a four rides, but it has really made my trainer sessions more purposeful and considerably more challenging. I am not sure how it will equate in the end, but for now I am drenched when I finish a session. I have not downloaded any of the sufferfest or related videos, not sure how they work, but I am still content starring at my HR and power. Well worth the $10 so far.
You have a good head start on me. My garmin ANT+ stick took a while to show up and I have only done the first fit test which is only 1 hour long with two 8 min intervals. Even after only one try I can see that Trainerroad will help with motivation. I see the bar change from green to red and that is reason enough to ramp up as needed. I seem to need a reason, real or not, for self imposed suffering. Gotta have a rabbit to chase I guess. As mentioned an hour with little seating change standong or coasting can make for a grumpy butt and I have not noticed this on the bike before. No more using the cheap store brand cycling shorts on the trainer.
The software and hardware all loaded and worked as advertised with no glitches. I plan to try some of the ride videos after I finish the second fit test and have a training baseline. (or is that basement line?) I ran a movie in the backround this time around and bothe worked well. Trainer road keeps the laptop from sleeping while it is running and also can be set to stay in the foreground. So far so good.January 5, 2013 at 6:05 pm #959103Vicegrip
Participant@Megabeth 39680 wrote:
After I busted my arm and could get on the trainer, I became a fan of Sufferfest.
Each video takes you through a different series of slow spins, hard grinds, sprints, cool downs, etc. The video is of an actual race and there is usually some story behind what you’re doing or goading messages like “Don’t let that Euskie guy beat you at the top of the mountain!” or “The pack is gathering behind you, don’t let them get you at the sprint!”
It’s self motivated. Just watch the video and go. I just prop my laptop up in front of the bike.
When you are riding along there are different noises that will sound to tell you to either speed up, slow down, or get a new instruction so you don’t have to stare at the screen the whole time. (Which is good because towards the end I usually have my head down and I’m whimpering.) They also have a graphic that tells you what cadence you should be doing at what intensity. And, the music is really good and matches well with what you’re supposed to be doing.
There are slow down sections built in to catch your breath and grab your water bottle, but then it revs up soon thereafter.
By the way, the one that features women pro-racers is probably the toughest one I’ve done.
Trainerroad and Sufferfest have gotten together and have linked some of the videos to TR workouts. Click the workout and click/purchase a downloadable sufferfest video right from the TR screen. I am going to try some out. Good way to get the first sting of getting dropped over with.
January 5, 2013 at 8:43 pm #959113Jason B
Participant@Vicegrip 39687 wrote:
You have a good head start on me. My garmin ANT+ stick took a while to show up d.
I tell you, if it not too late, I would get the Suunto Mini Movestick. After reading DCRainmakers review I can see what he is saying that it is more durable and portable. I commute with my computer every once and while, and I am constantly needing to remove the garmin stick for a variety of reasons. The Suunto stick is a tiny block that ain’t going nowhere, and won’t be bothered by a little backpack commuting bumping around.
http://www.amazon.com/Suunto-Movestick-Mini/dp/B004YJS3LG
At $20 a pop I am going to hold off on the videos until I get bored with chasing that green rabbit.January 5, 2013 at 10:03 pm #959116SteveTheTech
Participant@Megabeth 39680 wrote:
After I busted my arm and could get on the trainer, I became a fan of Sufferfest.
Each video takes you through a different series of slow spins, hard grinds, sprints, cool downs, etc. The video is of an actual race and there is usually some story behind what you’re doing or goading messages like “Don’t let that Euskie guy beat you at the top of the mountain!” or “The pack is gathering behind you, don’t let them get you at the sprint!”
It’s self motivated. Just watch the video and go. I just prop my laptop up in front of the bike.
When you are riding along there are different noises that will sound to tell you to either speed up, slow down, or get a new instruction so you don’t have to stare at the screen the whole time. (Which is good because towards the end I usually have my head down and I’m whimpering.) They also have a graphic that tells you what cadence you should be doing at what intensity. And, the music is really good and matches well with what you’re supposed to be doing.
There are slow down sections built in to catch your breath and grab your water bottle, but then it revs up soon thereafter.
By the way, the one that features women pro-racers is probably the toughest one I’ve done.
What a great endorsement that stems from something many of us have faced from time to time, instead of taking the time completely off you took the initiative to keep the fitness level up while coming back.
Extra Kudos for that.I like the fact that they are using woman in their series. I am sure it is not to their target demo (which I assume is competitive meatheads, myself included) but there is not a whole lot that really caters specifically to the woman who race. I fully expect to be dropped by a fast moving pack of ladies, and look forward to killing myself to try to hang on.
@Vicegrip 39687 wrote:
You have a good head start on me. My garmin ANT+ stick took a while to show up and I have only done the first fit test which is only 1 hour long with two 8 min intervals. Even after only one try I can see that Trainerroad will help with motivation. I see the bar change from green to red and that is reason enough to ramp up as needed. I seem to need a reason, real or not, for self imposed suffering. Gotta have a rabbit to chase I guess. As mentioned an hour with little seating change standong or coasting can make for a grumpy butt and I have not noticed this on the bike before. No more using the cheap store brand cycling shorts on the trainer.
The software and hardware all loaded and worked as advertised with no glitches. I plan to try some of the ride videos after I finish the second fit test and have a training baseline. (or is that basement line?) I ran a movie in the backround this time around and bothe worked well. Trainer road keeps the laptop from sleeping while it is running and also can be set to stay in the foreground. So far so good.Aww I made the same mistake on my first ride. Those fitness tests suck. I did one without really studying the profile and realized a 20 minute test was not a 20 minute long test and that’s it, it was a twenty minute test at FTP +10%. I did not do to well on that. The serious saddle time in those series makes me really appreciate my fancy Assos embrocation cream.
If there are more people out there maybe we can create some type of Strava game just to add a little competition to the home trainer game. If I had a larger space I was thinking of doing something like Mt. Evans (ride profile below) with a small crowd, but my condo lacks some crucial features to house this type of event. I was just thinking that climbing a mountain alone sucks but with some company it might not be too bad.@Jason B 39698 wrote:
I tell you, if it not too late, I would get the Suunto Mini Movestick. After reading DCRainmakers review I can see what he is saying that it is more durable and portable. I commute with my computer every once and while, and I am constantly needing to remove the garmin stick for a variety of reasons. The Suunto stick is a tiny block that ain’t going nowhere, and won’t be bothered by a little backpack commuting bumping around.
http://www.amazon.com/Suunto-Movestick-Mini/dp/B004YJS3LG
At $20 a pop I am going to hold off on the videos until I get bored with chasing that green rabbit.I like Suunto stuff, but the majority of their items come with a surprising price tag, I was surprised to see that one is actually have the ant+ sticks price. I will agree with you that the ant+ stick does stick out a lot and yes I have almost snapped my first one completely off its dock, but I am now a die hard Garmin user. That connect.garmin. com site is awesome.
I agree that there is a bit of sticker shock around some of the videos out there. I think the spinerval ones are the most expensive by a long shot and the epicRides and Sufferfest ones are about $10 less. Sufferfest has a coupon on the FB page for 15% off a bundle, I got the three video bundle for $30 the day before this special was announced…but someone else could be a smart shopper.January 7, 2013 at 2:59 pm #959203Tim Kelley
Participant@SteveTheTech 39701 wrote:
The serious saddle time in those series makes me really appreciate my fancy Assos embrocation cream.
Just want to point out a technicality–the stuff in the picture is just chamois cream and is very helpful for provide additional comfort when it comes to friction.
Embrocation is generally used on the legs and has the winter variations have capsaicin in them, which is the active ingredient in chili peppers. You’d probably not want to apply embrocation to your undercarriage. Although, if you did, we’d ask that you make a video of your facial expressions about 30 seconds after applying…
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