93 in a 55 in Rural Virginia

@mstone 92058 wrote:

I half agree. No jail, but no car either.

Unfortunately, we live in a society which considers not having a car worse than jail.

In a perfect world your would have a chip in your license that would activate your car. It would make it easier to do suspensions for major and minor infractions, etc..

If you had a suspended license, your car wouldn’t activate.

Sooooo……… n18 has disliked every single post in this thread.

So now you have to explain what your problem with this is.

@mstone 92074 wrote:

Closet motorist?

I’m an out and (not proud per se, but see the utility of it) motorist and agree with pretty much everything that was posted. Maybe n18 is a closet AAA Mid-Atlantic spokesman? Nahh, that’s crazy.

@thucydides 92078 wrote:

Hah! John Barrett Townsend II perhaps.

Cortland Milloy. Honorary AAA Mid-Atlantaic Spokesman.

@creadinger 92072 wrote:

Sooooo……… n18 has disliked every single post in this thread.

So now you have to explain what your problem with this is.

My guess is this has nothing to do with cycling? He disliked comments both pro and negative to the driver in question… so its all I got.

@Subby 92084 wrote:

So does losing a day of freedom.

so a fine of 1/365 (up for debate on the denominator) of your net wealth or a day in jail. Lawbreaker gets to choose. Wealth was chosen deliberately. If you own a home, you should understand how important it is to you for people not to drive that fast near your house. Or whatever you get for DUI these days… what is the punishment for that?

I’m all for making the penalty for speeding like that harsh. I don’t see much difference in the odds of you being in an accident going 90+mph on a single lane road (whoops, road in question is not a single lane road) vs you being drunk and driving on a single lane road.

I am now so far off topic I can’t even see my trail back….

@dplasters 92087 wrote:

so a fine of 1/365 (up for debate on the denominator) of your net wealth or a day in jail. Lawbreaker gets to choose. Wealth was chosen deliberately. If you own a home, you should understand how important it is to you for people not to drive that fast near your house. Or whatever you get for DUI these days… what is the punishment for that?

I’m all for making the penalty for speeding like that harsh. I don’t see much difference in the odds of you being in an accident going 90+mph on a single lane road vs you being drunk and driving on a single lane road.

Not defending this guy, just don’t think he should have gone to jail for three days for a first offense.

I also don’t know that he was near a house? 211 is a four lane divided highway for much of its stretch in Rappahannock County.

@dplasters 92087 wrote:

so a fine of 1/365 (up for debate on the denominator) of your net wealth or a day in jail. Lawbreaker gets to choose. Wealth was chosen deliberately.

What you’re describing is a day-fine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-fine) which takes into account the person’s average daily income to help determine a suitable penalty. Currently, they are being used in some European countries (Germany’s limit is at $16 million!)

Honestly, I think that day-fines would be extremely useful for punishing repeat offenders, although things get a little more complicated when you have a kid (read: young adult anywhere from 18 to mid 20’s) without their own income living on mommy and/or daddy’s money. Either that, or a combination of day-fine, jail time, and license suspension. For people at different income levels, different combinations could be used to greater effect.