8% Climb
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October 12, 2015 at 3:34 pm #1039325
Tim Kelley
ParticipantHow far are you willing to travel?
Deep Creek Lake: https://www.strava.com/segments/670167
Frederick: https://www.strava.com/segments/1384994
Luray: https://www.strava.com/segments/639830
October 12, 2015 at 4:01 pm #1039327dbb
ParticipantTake a look at the Arlington GIS page at the topographic maps (on about the third page) http://gis.arlingtonva.us/gallery/
Look for hills where the contour lines are evenly spaced (steady climb). A quick look shows Walter Reed is about the right grade (7.9% from Arlington Mill to Pollard) but too short at 0.29 miles. Arlington Ridge Road from Glebe to 23d Street is the right length (0.56 mi) but too shallow at 4.7%. You might find something tempting in North Arlington as well.
October 12, 2015 at 4:33 pm #1039328kcb203
ParticipantMt. Weather in Bluemont is a little closer:
https://www.strava.com/activities/171621609
1.1 miles at 7%, or .5 miles at 10%
I did 10 repeats of this to prepare for the Mt. Washington climb. Same total elevation, but Mt. Washington was 7.6 miles at 12%. There’s no real way to prepare for that.
October 12, 2015 at 4:43 pm #1039329hozn
ParticipantOr one of the Catoctin climbs.
Around here, I like Anglers, or MD Great Falls up to Falls Rd or the Ross/Ridge/Military climb all the way up to nature center; they are not steep enough, but give a good feel for longer climbs, IMO.
October 12, 2015 at 5:04 pm #1039330TwoWheelsDC
ParticipantThe climb into Gathland State Park is almost exactly what you need:
https://www.strava.com/segments/2333279
October 12, 2015 at 5:43 pm #1039331Crickey7
Participant@Tim Kelley 125947 wrote:
How far are you willing to travel?
I drove over this in August.
Honister Pass in Cumbria: 11% average grade, top grade of 28.9%
https://www.strava.com/segments/honister-pass-from-seatoller-652100
October 12, 2015 at 5:49 pm #1039332creadinger
ParticipantThanks for all of the links to strava segments, but how accurate is that elevation data? Is it more reliable than rwGPS?
October 12, 2015 at 5:50 pm #1039333sethpo
Participant@creadinger 125946 wrote:
I’m looking for a sustained 8% climb that is long enough (at least a 1/2 mile) to get a feel for what a longer climb might feel like.
I don’t have an incline meter, and I really don’t trust mapmyride, or rwGPS so I just don’t have a good way to find anything.
Thanks for any recommendations!
Mar Lu Ridge. 8% for .8 miles.
https://www.strava.com/segments/624371
This is across the valley from Gathland so you can do both! (Mar Lu is harder than all four of the ways up to Gathland though)
October 12, 2015 at 7:51 pm #1039339Terpfan
Participant@sethpo 125956 wrote:
Mar Lu Ridge. 8% for .8 miles.
https://www.strava.com/segments/624371
This is across the valley from Gathland so you can do both! (Mar Lu is harder than all four of the ways up to Gathland though)
The last part of that is particularly steep. I’ve never ridden it, but I’ve driven in a couple dozen times and hiked to the peak probably a dozen times (family member lives on the mountainside nearby).
October 12, 2015 at 8:45 pm #1039342TwoWheelsDC
Participant@creadinger 125955 wrote:
Thanks for all of the links to strava segments, but how accurate is that elevation data? Is it more reliable than rwGPS?
I would be less trusting of the indicated grade at any given point, but the overall grade is just a matter of geometry, and I’d wager the start/end elevations are fairly accurate. I’d also think RWGPS would be fairly accurate unless you’re looking at an area with a bridge or something where the road elevation is different than the land elevation.
October 12, 2015 at 9:49 pm #1039345Rod Smith
ParticipantIlchester in Patapsco, riding distance from home. 0.5mi 10% https://www.strava.com/segments/8308975
There are a few more there similar length but not as steep.
October 14, 2015 at 6:25 pm #1039492Bruno Moore
ParticipantIlly is just evil; that 21-25% grade at the beginning just saps you for the second kickup. There is no good or easy way to ride that kind of grade.
Most of our hills around here are short, frequent, and sometimes steep, so it’s hard to train for sustained climbs. Of course, the same could be said about the Netherlands—so perhaps heading out to the BARC on a windy day and staying out of the drops might be your best option.
October 14, 2015 at 6:36 pm #1039493creadinger
Participant@Rod Smith 125969 wrote:
Ilchester in Patapsco, riding distance from home. 0.5mi 10% https://www.strava.com/segments/8308975
There are a few more there similar length but not as steep.
Yeah I’ve seen Ilchester. I avoided riding up it by wading through 18in deep ice water for 50 yards in early March. I’m really just looking for a 7-8% hill to get a feel for how that incline makes my legs feel, and what gear is most comfortable over a longer duration.
October 14, 2015 at 8:38 pm #1039524TwoWheelsDC
Participant@creadinger 126135 wrote:
I’m really just looking for a 7-8% hill to get a feel for how that incline makes my legs feel, and what gear is most comfortable over a longer duration.
IME, having done Col du Telegraph + Galibier (7% for 7.5 miles, a short descent, then 7% for 11 miles) and Alpe d’Huez (8% for 8.6 miles) back-to-back, it’s less about the legs and more about managing your HR. I think I used 30×25 for the entire ride (occasionally upshifting a couple cogs to stand and climb), which is a much lower gear than I’d need for even much steeper hills, but it allowed me to to keep a steady (and incredibly slow) pace and maintain a steady HR that was well below my LTHR.
October 15, 2015 at 1:10 pm #1039568creadinger
Participant@TwoWheelsDC 126168 wrote:
IME, having done Col du Telegraph + Galibier (7% for 7.5 miles, a short descent, then 7% for 11 miles) and Alpe d’Huez (8% for 8.6 miles) back-to-back, it’s less about the legs and more about managing your HR. I think I used 30×25 for the entire ride (occasionally upshifting a couple cogs to stand and climb), which is a much lower gear than I’d need for even much steeper hills, but it allowed me to to keep a steady (and incredibly slow) pace and maintain a steady HR that was well below my LTHR.
You’re right, for that duration it’s an aerobic thing so you can’t outrun your breath. Do you remember what speed your comfortable gear got you? That’s another thing I want to figure out. Is my comfortable speed, 4mph? 6? Maybe I can sustain 8, for a little while and drop back down to 5 to catch my breath, etc…
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