4/30 Cyclst Down at Clarendon Circle

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  • April 30, 2019 at 10:46 pm #1098132
    chris_s
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    For what it’s worth, Arlnow’s editor tweeted that Arlington FD says they were NOT hit by a motor vehicle and that they’re in stable condition with non-life-threatening injuries.

    https://twitter.com/howisthatlegal/status/1123279022497177601

    May 1, 2019 at 11:59 am #1098144
    Sunyata
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    My guess is it was one of the giant potholes in that intersection that took him/her down.

    I can not wait for construction to be finished and for them to repave that area. It truly is awful.

    May 1, 2019 at 5:29 pm #1098161
    Dewey
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    Wonder if he hit the raised brick pavers in the median on Wilson heading East, one time crossing against a bunch of people I clipped one edge with my (thankfully unoccupied) trailer which promptly overturned causing much anguished cries from onlookers while I sheepishly picked it upright and pushed my bike to the sidewalk.

    Edit: Nope, the photo appears to show the incident at the corner of Irving and Wash Blvd

    May 1, 2019 at 7:01 pm #1098171
    consularrider
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    @Dewey 190249 wrote:

    Wonder if he hit the raised brick pavers in the median on Wilson heading East, one time crossing against a bunch of people I clipped one edge with my (thankfully unoccupied) trailer which promptly overturned causing much anguished cries from onlookers while I sheepishly picked it upright and pushed my bike to the sidewalk.

    Edit: Nope, the photo appears to show the incident at the corner of Irving and Wash Blvd

    I was guessing the cyclist was carrying the grocery bags, lost control and did an endo over the handlebars.

    May 1, 2019 at 8:04 pm #1098173
    Dewey
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    Plausible, recently in Clarendon I saw an electric scooter riding on Wilson with a Trader Joe’s shopping bag hanging off each handlebar.

    May 1, 2019 at 8:54 pm #1098175
    lordofthemark
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    @Dewey 190261 wrote:

    Plausible, recently in Clarendon I saw an electric scooter riding on Wilson with a Trader Joe’s shopping bag hanging off each handlebar.

    Impossible. I have it on good authority that e-scooters are only ridden by joy riding tourists.

    May 2, 2019 at 11:08 pm #1098244
    Dewey
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    @lordofthemark 190263 wrote:

    e-scooters are only ridden by joy riding tourists.

    Not only but also…

    I was reminded this week there are visitors who have never seen an electric scooter or bicycle infrastructure. A father and daughter riding 2-up on an e-scooter up and down the sidewalk outside the Residence Inn Ballston nearly rode down my 3-year old after she climbed out of her bike trailer and turned around to walk across the sidewalk into a restaurant. Unsure how outreach about the no-sidewalk, no-passengers, rules works for people who can’t recognize when a protected bike lane is right in front of them or that it is the authorized place to ride.

    May 3, 2019 at 1:49 pm #1098266
    dasgeh
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    @Dewey 190338 wrote:

    Unsure how outreach about the no-sidewalk, no-passengers, rules works for people who can’t recognize when a protected bike lane is right in front of them or that it is the authorized place to ride.

    Hotels. Seriously, it would be great if we could get some snazzy Bike/WalkArlington brochures about transportation options and how to use them, and get them on those car-free diet kiosks. Makes sense to wait until Arlington makes the pilot final, which should be by next January, though they could start planning now.

    PS. sidewalk scooter riding will be legal July 1

    May 3, 2019 at 1:56 pm #1098268
    lordofthemark
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    Meanwhile we can all help. Other day I was riding SB on the Eads PBL, saw someone coming the other way – turned out to be someone on a scooter. Other than going the wrong way, he was actually riding pretty sanely, and IIRC may even have been wearing a helmet. I calmly explained that the bike lanes have directions, that there was a NB one on the other side of the street. He seemed apologetic, and said he took this one because of the side of the street it was on. I said (in what I hope was not a snarky voice) “that’s why there are crosswalks”. It was a much more positive interaction than I have had with people on bikes who ride NB in the SB Eads PBL.

    May 3, 2019 at 1:58 pm #1098269
    lordofthemark
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    @dasgeh 190363 wrote:

    Hotels. Seriously, it would be great if we could get some snazzy Bike/WalkArlington brochures about transportation options and how to use them, and get them on those car-free diet kiosks. Makes sense to wait until Arlington makes the pilot final, which should be by next January, though they could start planning now.

    PS. sidewalk scooter riding will be legal July 1

    We also need to start painting scooter symbols on the bike lanes. I guess that has not been done because these are “pilots”.

    May 3, 2019 at 2:02 pm #1098272
    dasgeh
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    @lordofthemark 190366 wrote:

    We also need to start painting scooter symbols on the bike lanes. I guess that has not been done because these are “pilots”.

    That’s a great idea. Also, at the DC BAC there was a bit of discussion about representation of scooters/scootists/scooterists (the people who ride scooters) on the BAC… I imagine there will be a similar conversation at some point in Arlington. Maybe we’ll even get a ScootArlington out of it. :-)

    SkoochArlington?

    May 3, 2019 at 2:13 pm #1098274
    Dewey
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    @dasgeh 190363 wrote:

    Hotels. Seriously, it would be great if we could get some snazzy Bike/WalkArlington brochures about transportation options and how to use them, and get them on those car-free diet kiosks. Makes sense to wait until Arlington makes the pilot final, which should be by next January, though they could start planning now.

    PS. sidewalk scooter riding will be legal July 1

    The Virginia state legal change continues to permit localities to enact sidewalk bans on e-scooters (but not e-bikes):

    § 46.2-903. “No person shall ride or drive any vehicle other than…(iv) a bicycle…(vi) an electric power-assisted bicycle, or (vii)unless otherwise prohibited by ordinance, a motorized skateboard or scooter on the sidewalks of any county, city, or town of the Commonwealth.”
    § 46.2-1315. “Any county, city, town, or political subdivision may (i) by ordinance regulate…the operation of motorized skateboards or scooters, bicycles, or electric power-assisted bicycles for hire.”

    Have you heard if Arlington is considering lifting its scooter sidewalk ban when the trial is evaluated? I’d like DC to include scooters with ebikes if/when reconsidering its sidewalk ban for commuters needing to use the Potomac bridge sidewalks.

    May 3, 2019 at 2:49 pm #1098278
    Dewey
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    @dasgeh 190363 wrote:

    Hotels. Seriously, it would be great if we could get some snazzy Bike/WalkArlington brochures about transportation options and how to use them, and get them on those car-free diet kiosks. Makes sense to wait until Arlington makes the pilot final, which should be by next January, though they could start planning now.

    Good idea, maybe also feature the rules & descriptions of bicycle infrastructure in regional tourist publications, the Visit Alexandria website does some of this though doesn’t mention scooters, but the official DC tourism and Virginia state tourism websites could also do with updated information.

    May 3, 2019 at 5:41 pm #1098282
    dasgeh
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    @Dewey 190371 wrote:

    The Virginia state legal change continues to permit localities to enact sidewalk bans on e-scooters (but not e-bikes):

    § 46.2-903. “No person shall ride or drive any vehicle other than…(iv) a bicycle…(vi) an electric power-assisted bicycle, or (vii)unless otherwise prohibited by ordinance, a motorized skateboard or scooter on the sidewalks of any county, city, or town of the Commonwealth.”
    § 46.2-1315. “Any county, city, town, or political subdivision may (i) by ordinance regulate…the operation of motorized skateboards or scooters, bicycles, or electric power-assisted bicycles for hire.”

    Have you heard if Arlington is considering lifting its scooter sidewalk ban when the trial is evaluated? I’d like DC to include scooters with ebikes if/when reconsidering its sidewalk ban for commuters needing to use the Potomac bridge sidewalks.

    Arlington does not ban scooters on sidewalks — Virginia does currently, but will stop on July 1. (Which is why the Arlington materials say they are banned)

    Arlington does have an ordinance that applies to trails, though I’ve been clear about my opinion of the legality of that as to ebikes. It also seems like the ordinance would not meet the requirements to ban escooters. But they’re unlikely to admit that their interpretation is wrong – best bet is to get them to consider changes under the new laws.

    May 3, 2019 at 9:04 pm #1098293
    Dewey
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    @dasgeh 190380 wrote:

    Arlington does not ban scooters on sidewalks — Virginia does currently, but will stop on July 1. (Which is why the Arlington materials say they are banned)

    Thanks I hadn’t noticed they were relying on state law in the regs, but you’re right on page 4 of the Memorandum of agreement operators have to sign I see it says “electric scooters are prohibited from operating on sidewalks (per Va Code §46.2-903)” and now that section has changed.

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