Possible Pointless prize? The Road goes ever on and on…

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  • December 9, 2018 at 11:42 pm #920806
    AliasXIII
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    I’d be interested in sponsoring a pointless prize this year — but I don’t know how viable the judging would be, and am open to people’s thoughts/suggestions.

    I think it would be fun to have a prize for the person who, over the course of Freezing Saddles, rode the longest road.

    So, for example, if you ride around Hains point once, it would count for ~3.2 miles, because you’ve covered those roads. If you then go over that same route 500 more times, nothing is added, because you already got that road.
    A long commute counts the first time, and then no longer gains anything (unless you mix up the route and take different routes — then you get the miles for those).
    Also, if you fly to Australia and ride 200 miles there, those miles don’t count — it has to be the big contiguous path.

    I think it would be fun, and reward exploring and variety.

    My problem is I don’t know if there’s a reasonable way to evaluate this. Any thoughts?

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  • December 10, 2018 at 1:56 am #1092044
    musclys
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    @AliasXIII 183562 wrote:

    I think it would be fun to have a prize for the person who, over the course of Freezing Saddles, rode the longest road.
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    My problem is I don’t know if there’s a reasonable way to evaluate this. Any thoughts?

    I think this could pretty easily being judged by having people nominate themselves by sending you their longest Strava segment for a single road. Would the WOD count as 90 miles (out and back)? [emoji51]

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    December 10, 2018 at 2:19 am #1092046
    AlanA
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    @musclys 183578 wrote:

    I think this could pretty easily being judged by having people nominate themselves by sending you their longest Strava segment for a single road. Would the WOD count as 90 miles (out and back)? [emoji51]

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    I guess we’d need some legal advice on the term “road”. The WOD is obviously not a road. And I would guess that out and back wouldn’t count since that is basically the same road.

    And here’s another twist. Let’s say I did 40 miles of a road on one ride. And then another ride, I did an additional 20 miles of the road (not the same part, but picked up at the same location as I ended before). And how do you determine what is a “road”? Does it need to have the same name? The same Rt. number? And some roads are briefly interrupted by an intersection.

    I like the concept of your idea, but you’d have to come up with some rules and guidelines. And I’m not even sure how you’d be able to figure out the same road ridden on multiple rides.

    December 10, 2018 at 2:54 am #1092048
    musclys
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    @AlanA 183580 wrote:

    I guess we’d need some legal advice on the term “road”.

    You’re right: we have a responsibility to overcomplicate this

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    December 10, 2018 at 5:24 am #1092053
    Steve O
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    Just give it to Eric Williams now. That’s probably the easiest way.

    December 10, 2018 at 2:37 pm #1092055
    bentbike33
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    How about a prize for most Strava segments ridden at least once during Freezing Saddles? It would be technically feasible. Also, people can add segments at any time which would give the game a bit of a Calvinball aspect.

    December 10, 2018 at 7:07 pm #1092084
    LeprosyStudyGroup
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    The debate in the general info sticky is making me think it may be necessary to offer a prize to the highest FS’19 milage rider who isn’t on a FS’19 team. dunno what to call it though

    December 10, 2018 at 7:16 pm #1092086
    LhasaCM
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    @bentbike33 183593 wrote:

    How about a prize for most Strava segments ridden at least once during Freezing Saddles? It would be technically feasible. Also, people can add segments at any time which would give the game a bit of a Calvinball aspect.

    I’m just waiting (hoping?) for the forum thread about “so and so has vanished from the leaderboard – please fix!!” and it turns out that someone managed to get banned from Strava for violating the ToS by spamming their system and creating too many 3 block segments.

    December 10, 2018 at 7:27 pm #1092088
    AliasXIII
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    Interesting thoughts. I kinda like the idea of most Strava segments. Or maybe even most Strava segments ridden once, and only once, to really prompt wandering all over creation? That’s super easy to game, though… Not sure I’m looking for Calvinball.

    My idea (which apparently wasn’t totally clear) is maybe better expressed as the rider who covers the most ground? Or the most miles ridden during FS, but only the first time you ride that ride counts? Or the rider with the most evenly lit most sprawling heatmap; instead of just a few bright very well worth paths.

    I want a prize for exploring, and wandering, and new things, and not just riding your same habits.

    I was (and still am!) wondering if there’s a way to quantify this.

    Or, I guess, given the hugely high stakes involved, I could just eyeball it?
    Give a prize to the rider whose heatmap looks to me like they wandered hither-and-yon the most?

    December 10, 2018 at 7:46 pm #1092091
    bentbike33
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    @AliasXIII 183628 wrote:

    Interesting thoughts. I kinda like the idea of most Strava segments. Or maybe even most Strava segments ridden once, and only once, to really prompt wandering all over creation? That’s super easy to game, though… Not sure I’m looking for Calvinball.

    If Strava segments are assigned identifying numbers in order of establishment (which I think is the case), to prevent “gaming the game” you would count only segments with lower numbers than a segment created on a certain date prior to the announcement of the prize.

    December 10, 2018 at 8:18 pm #1092094
    ShawnoftheDread
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    @AliasXIII 183628 wrote:

    Interesting thoughts. I kinda like the idea of most Strava segments. Or maybe even most Strava segments ridden once, and only once, to really prompt wandering all over creation? That’s super easy to game, though… Not sure I’m looking for Calvinball.

    My idea (which apparently wasn’t totally clear) is maybe better expressed as the rider who covers the most ground? Or the most miles ridden during FS, but only the first time you ride that ride counts? Or the rider with the most evenly lit most sprawling heatmap; instead of just a few bright very well worth paths.

    I want a prize for exploring, and wandering, and new things, and not just riding your same habits.

    I was (and still am!) wondering if there’s a way to quantify this.

    Or, I guess, given the hugely high stakes involved, I could just eyeball it?
    Give a prize to the rider whose heatmap looks to me like they wandered hither-and-yon the most?

    Basically you’re suggesting a prize for the broadest contiguous strava heat map, I think.

    EDIT: I’m pretty sure that prize existed in a previous year.

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