Laurel to North Arlington (Marymount)
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July 12, 2018 at 4:52 pm #1088353
huskerdont
ParticipantI don’t know the Laurel area, but if there’s a way for you to get to the CCT, I’d take that to the towpath and take Chain Bridge to Glebe. (Assuming you can deal with the 41st St. climb). Beast of a commute; good luck.
July 12, 2018 at 5:33 pm #1088363Brett L.
Participant@huskerdont 179496 wrote:
I don’t know the Laurel area, but if there’s a way for you to get to the CCT, I’d take that to the towpath and take Chain Bridge to Glebe. (Assuming you can deal with the 41st St. climb). Beast of a commute; good luck.
Getting to CCT would be tough, unless he wanted to venture out through Olney following the ICC trail…. Oh wait, most of it doesn’t exist! Alternatively, he could take the GBT….. Oh wait, that’s shut down for the Purple Line construction…….
ebubar, you’re route is probably what I would recommend. You could look at taking Gallatin and Galloway through Fort Totten and up to the CCT at Van Ness. That adds some hills and more traffic, and I doubt that would increase your commute times. You could also look at taking the ART down to Benning, jump over the Anacostia and cut down to E Capitol.
July 12, 2018 at 5:39 pm #1088366ginacico
Participant@ebubar 179494 wrote:
I also expect an ebike changes the mix as I should be able to easily maintain ~20 mph through the whole route making me think city roads are better than trails where I wouldn’t keep those speeds for safety purposes.
You said this, and I just wanted to highlight it. Still, be prepared for some … er, critique?… from people who hate ebikes blowing by them at 20+ on multi-use trails like CCT, Anacostia Riverwalk, Met Branch, or the Custis. Fair warning.
I’m not all that familiar with the DC portion of your route, but strategically I would pick the straightest roads with the fewest lights and least traffic. It will take some trial and error, and your options may change when you get the ebike. If you can achieve 20+ average, feel free to take the lane even on streets with bike lanes (like M Street). When you get to Arlington, Wilson Blvd is fairly calm. Some people take the lane on Lee Hwy and are fine with it. Just ride carefully and predictably on the roads, and you could reduce the commute time.
Beast of a commute indeed. Thanks for subtracting one car, and good luck.
July 12, 2018 at 5:42 pm #1088367closebr
Participant@huskerdont 179496 wrote:
I don’t know the Laurel area, but if there’s a way for you to get to the CCT, I’d take that to the towpath and take Chain Bridge to Glebe. (Assuming you can deal with the 41st St. climb). Beast of a commute; good luck.
Definitely no good way to get to the CCT from Laurel. I’d recommend going the way you go, Konterra, Route 1 sidepath to Rhode Island cut through, then when you get to Hyattsville, take the ART, it will cut off a lot of hills and save you time overall. Once you get to Nats Stadium go around and take Maine Ave. to Jefferson Memorial, then I’d cross the bridge into VA and take the MVT up.
P.S. I think your e-bike choice is terrible! You can do that commute everyday without it, it’s only 50 miles a day. Trust me, I know:)
July 12, 2018 at 5:45 pm #1088370ebubar
Participant@ginacico 179509 wrote:
You said this, and I just wanted to highlight it. Still, be prepared for some … er, critique?… from people who hate ebikes blowing by them at 20+ on multi-use trails like CCT, Anacostia Riverwalk, Met Branch, or the Custis. Fair warning.
I’m not all that familiar with the DC portion of your route, but strategically I would pick the straightest roads with the fewest lights and least traffic. It will take some trial and error, and your options may change when you get the ebike. If you can achieve 20+ average, feel free to take the lane even on streets with bike lanes (like M Street). When you get to Arlington, Wilson Blvd is fairly calm. Some people take the lane on Lee Hwy and are fine with it. Just ride carefully and predictably on the roads, and you could reduce the commute time.
Beast of a commute indeed. Thanks for subtracting one car, and good luck.
Indeed. I’d limit the ebike-superness to non-trail usage to hopefully avoid any kerfluffles. Any other critiques I would brush off with the justification of riding half a century a day in commuting. I think that justifies an ebike. Might try to get a new Garmin 520 plus with cyclemap live routing to help identify the best cycling roads too…
July 12, 2018 at 5:46 pm #1088371ebubar
Participant@closebr 179510 wrote:
Definitely no good way to get to the CCT from Laurel. I’d recommend going the way you go, Konterra, Route 1 sidepath to Rhode Island cut through, then when you get to Hyattsville, take the ART, it will cut off a lot of hills and save you time overall. Once you get to Nats Stadium go around and take Maine Ave. to Jefferson Memorial, then I’d cross the bridge into VA and take the MVT up.
P.S. I think your e-bike choice is terrible! You can do that commute everyday without it, it’s only 50 miles a day. Trust me, I know:)
I can do it without an ebike, but perhaps not in a reasonable amount of time :p.
July 12, 2018 at 5:51 pm #1088372josh
ParticipantI don’t have much to contribute other than to request that you’re on my FS team this winter.
July 12, 2018 at 6:21 pm #1088376closebr
Participant@ebubar 179514 wrote:
I can do it without an ebike, but perhaps not in a reasonable amount of time :p.
Ok, I must admit that I considered an e-bike as an option to do my 44 mi. round trip daily commute, but I never ended up doing it. I just budgeted in the time, but it was tough. My long commute was from NW DC to Laurel. Your commute is essentially the opposite direction that mine was, with some additional distance added getting up the Custiss.
I’m not sure you should take advice from anyone, if you do this commute consistently, you will be a stud. Just try not to e-bike it every day.
You could also try going early morning and take your bike on metro (before 7 am) for part of the trip. Or stash bikes on both ends of your metro trip, or get a folding bike. You also carpool into DC with your bike in the car and then bike the rest of the way. You could do the alternating driving thing, where you drive to work one day then bike home and alternate. You could ride your bike to a Zipcar and then drive the rest of the way home (night rates are cheap with Zip) and then do the oposite the next day. Also, now that Uber and Lyft have pool options, they’ve gotten a lot cheaper, so it could be a viable option for connecting you from work to metro and metro to home, if you only had a bike on one leg of the metro trip. Also, don’t forget the MARC, it is a good way to get from Laurel to Union Station, then you could ride from there to work. Also Metro and MARC have bike locker options that are fairly affordable, if leaving a bike at metro is a problem for you.
July 12, 2018 at 6:25 pm #1088377ebubar
Participant@closebr 179520 wrote:
Ok, I must admit that I considered an e-bike as an option to do my 44 mi. round trip daily commute, but I never ended up doing it. I just budgeted in the time, but it was tough. My long commute was from NW DC to Laurel. Your commute is essentially the opposite direction that mine was, with some additional distance added getting up the Custiss.
I’m not sure you should take advice from anyone, if you do this commute consistently, you will be a stud. Just try not to e-bike it every day.
You could also try going early morning and take your bike on metro (before 7 am) for part of the trip. Or stash bikes on both ends of your metro trip, or get a folding bike. You also carpool into DC with your bike in the car and then bike the rest of the way. You could do the alternating driving thing, where you drive to work one day then bike home and alternate. You could ride your bike to a Zipcar and then drive the rest of the way home (night rates are cheap with Zip) and then do the oposite the next day. Also, now that Uber and Lyft have pool options, they’ve gotten a lot cheaper, so it could be a viable option for connecting you from work to metro and metro to home, if you only had a bike on one leg of the metro trip. Also, don’t forget the MARC, it is a good way to get from Laurel to Union Station, then you could ride from there to work. Also Metro and MARC have bike locker options that are fairly affordable, if leaving a bike at metro is a problem for you.
All good ideas! I do have the option to carpool with my other half to her office at UMD and bike from there. That’s a more manageable 30 mile roundtrip, which works well. But if I can ebike in similar time without any time in the car, i’d like that option
July 12, 2018 at 7:35 pm #1088380closebr
Participant@ebubar 179521 wrote:
All good ideas! I do have the option to carpool with my other half to her office at UMD and bike from there. That’s a more manageable 30 mile roundtrip, which works well. But if I can ebike in similar time without any time in the car, i’d like that option
I just can’t get myself to do the e-bike thing. It doesn’t really make sense, I know. If I’m willing to drive or metro part of the way on a mega-commute, why am I not willing to e-bike the whole way? I guess I like being able to Strava my rides without an asterisk. Maybe I fear the day that all bike trails just become roads for e-bikes and regular cyclists are shoved off to the shoulder of the trail. Surely that’s already begining to happen in some places around here. Please, e-bike responsibly.
July 12, 2018 at 7:41 pm #1088381Brett L.
Participant@closebr 179524 wrote:
I just can’t get myself to do the e-bike thing. It doesn’t really make sense, I know. If I’m willing to drive or metro part of the way on a mega-commute, why am I not willing to e-bike the whole way? I guess I like being able to Strava my rides without an asterisk. Maybe I fear the day that all bike trails just become roads for e-bikes and regular cyclists are shoved off to the shoulder of the trail. Surely that’s already begining to happen in some places around here. Please, e-bike responsibly.
Ignore closebr. I, for one, welcome encouraging people to ride (even on a ebike) 50 mile round-trip commutes rather than sitting in a 4000lbs steel tank on the beltway :p
July 12, 2018 at 7:42 pm #1088382drevil
Participant@josh 179515 wrote:
I don’t have much to contribute other than to request that you’re on my FS team this winter.
Sorry not sorry, but he’s Team Maryland, so he stays with us.
Alternatively, Lynn, you, and he are a team of 3 versus all the rest of the teams (of 10-12 members). Y’all would have a fighting chance, if not win
July 12, 2018 at 8:08 pm #1088383Brett L.
ParticipantHere are three different possible routes:
1) 33 miles, longer but significantly fewer lights
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/280478032) 30 miles, ART to E Cap
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/280478203) 32 miles, ART to S Cap
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28047829I don’t know NoVA very well, so take the route west of the Potomac with a heavy dose of salt.
July 12, 2018 at 8:16 pm #1088384Brett L.
ParticipantIf you go through Beltsville, be extra careful of the 4way stop on Rhode Island and Sellman. As stupid as RI and Route 1 in Beltsville is, that intersection North of it is worse
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July 12, 2018 at 8:20 pm #1088385closebr
Participant@Brett L. 179527 wrote:
Here are three different possible routes:
1) 33 miles, longer but significantly fewer lights
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/280478032) 30 miles, ART to E Cap
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/280478203) 32 miles, ART to S Cap
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28047829I don’t know NoVA very well, so take the route west of the Potomac with a heavy dose of salt.
These are all very solid routes. Here are some other suggestions:
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