Keeping feet warm during FS

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  • #1080392
    Mtansill
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    I don’t clip in. So what I have been wearing that have been comfortable enough for at least 15 miles… First layer, thin socks with some wool content. Second layer, thicker socks – doesn’t have to include wool. Third layer, Ziploc bags over the front of the foot. Fourth layer, some old Thinsulate brand boots. Toes have been a little chilled, but not the blocks of ice that I have felt them at before. I have also tried cycling shoes meant for inclement weather instead of the boots (not as much room for air and water to seep in), but it’s been too cold for that the past few days.

    I am also a firm believer in making sure to keep my legs warm enough – I’ve been wearing multiple layers on those – to encourage better blood circulation to my extremities.

    #1080393
    dplasters
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    What kind of distance/time are we talking about here?

    #1080394
    rachel_c
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    @SurlyTed1187 170603 wrote:

    I know this is a repeated topic, but I want to hear from fellow FS riders facing these harsh early winter temps.

    Last year was my first year with FS, and I was kind of let down by the few days we had with truly below freezing days.

    This year, we’re plunging right in with the sub freezing temps. I’ve been struggling in keeping my feet warm. I’ve tried various thickness wool socks. I’ve tried wearing a thin pair of socks under a looser pair of wool socks. I keep the Velcro straps on my shoes loose so as not to constrict my blood flow. I wear neoprene shoe covers to try to keep the wind out. I wear wool leg warmers to keep my legs warm. But I still finish my rides with ice toes.

    I just don’t know where else to go aside from dropping a few hundred bucks on a pair of winter cycling shoes.

    Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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    I feel your pain. My toes are very susceptible to the cold. So I ordered some winter cycling shoes, but in the meantime here’s what I do…

    1. I put small toe warmers/hot hands under the arch of my foot (outside sock but inside shoe).

    2. I add an extra layer of wind block by placing plastic sandwich bags over the toe of my shoe before I put the full over boot on. I have to tear the plastic and pull around the cleat.

    3. I stop for re-warming breaks every 45 min or so.

    I’m a newbie so I am still trying different things out. Good luck.

    #1080399
    n18
    Participant

    I didn’t try them, but you could use these socks designed for scuba divers:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KK4AC7W/

    Buy them locally, most dive shops in the area carry them(Google map link), for the same price as Amazon. I bought one from Amazon, but it was too small, cutting blood circulation. My shoe size is 8.5W, or 9, and I ordered the Large, when I should have ordered X-Large. I returned mine and had to pay $5 for return shipping. I didn’t buy one locally yet, but you can try them before you buy them. The weather forecast calls for warm and toasty 46 degrees next Monday and after. I will wait and see if the cold continues. Meanwhile, I am experimenting with these $18 sneaker from Walmart, which don’t have any vents, even the flap under the shoelaces is made with a solid piece of plastic, so it’s essentially windproof. I am using these thermal socks, which I found at Dick’s Sporting Goods. My feet still feel cold even though I limit my speed to 7 to 10 MPH. Last year I tried the grocery bag trick over socks with different shoes with small number of vents(Nike Air Monarch IV), and it did make a noticeable difference. I might try that tomorrow and see if my feet stay warm enough.

    #1080401
    ImaCynic
    Participant

    @SurlyTed1187 170603 wrote:

    I know this is a repeated topic, but I want to hear from fellow FS riders facing these harsh early winter temps.

    Last year was my first year with FS, and I was kind of let down by the few days we had with truly below freezing days.

    This year, we’re plunging right in with the sub freezing temps. I’ve been struggling in keeping my feet warm. I’ve tried various thickness wool socks. I’ve tried wearing a thin pair of socks under a looser pair of wool socks. I keep the Velcro straps on my shoes loose so as not to constrict my blood flow. I wear neoprene shoe covers to try to keep the wind out. I wear wool leg warmers to keep my legs warm. But I still finish my rides with ice toes.

    I just don’t know where else to go aside from dropping a few hundred bucks on a pair of winter cycling shoes.

    Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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    Two suggestions: 1) Minimize heat loss from your head; insulated skull cap that covers the ears, insulated/wind proof helmet cover. 2) Cut out any caffeine before the ride as it constrict capillaries, perhaps even an aspirin to keep the blood thin and slippery.

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    #1080403
    ImaCynic
    Participant

    @SurlyTed1187 170603 wrote:

    I know this is a repeated topic, but I want to hear from fellow FS riders facing these harsh early winter temps.

    Last year was my first year with FS, and I was kind of let down by the few days we had with truly below freezing days.

    This year, we’re plunging right in with the sub freezing temps. I’ve been struggling in keeping my feet warm. I’ve tried various thickness wool socks. I’ve tried wearing a thin pair of socks under a looser pair of wool socks. I keep the Velcro straps on my shoes loose so as not to constrict my blood flow. I wear neoprene shoe covers to try to keep the wind out. I wear wool leg warmers to keep my legs warm. But I still finish my rides with ice toes.

    I just don’t know where else to go aside from dropping a few hundred bucks on a pair of winter cycling shoes.

    Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Two suggestions: 1) Minimize heat loss from your head; insulated skull cap that covers both ears, insulated/wind proof helmet cover. 2) Cut out any caffeine before the ride as it constrict capillaries, perhaps even an aspirin to keep the blood thin and slippery.

    Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk

    #1080406
    anomad
    Participant

    The best thing I have found is having shoes large enough to accommodate heavy wool socks and a liner sock. If you add winter shoes to that and you should be good. I used that combination in Alaska… Same for booties, make sure they aren’t tight fitting, just snug enough. I bought a pair of Gore socks that are amazing. Pretty much replaced booties in a shoe that accommodates them and a thin wool liner sock. I also put duct tape over the vents on those shoes (fashion police will not approve). It’s looking like I might break out my winter shoes this year, mine are only useful in the single digits or below. The duct tape only cuts it down to 20-25F or so. Gaiter’s can help add a few degrees too and you might have some already. The weird area for me is a 10 degree morning and a 30 degree evening commute…I’m going to struggle one way or the other. On a longer ride you’ll sweat out something that is too warm and freeze, a change of socks helps.

    My cut off for riding up north was -20F, where frostbite becomes a serious issue, but my record ride of any distance was -37F. If your feet get cold while riding, hop off the bike and walk or jog until they warm up. And there is a difference between my toes are cold and “I am going to lose a toe if I keep this up” cold.

    Bottom line, shoes that are a couple euro sizes too big with heavy socks with liner and snug but not tight booties. Or, winter shoes for heavy socks combo if that’s not enough.

    #1080410
    Steve O
    Participant

    I give up on clipping in when it gets cold enough. I wear regular winter boots, the ones I use to shovel snow in. Clunky, but my feet don’t get cold.

    #1080413
    SurlyTed1187
    Participant

    @dplasters 170607 wrote:

    What kind of distance/time are we talking about here?

    My commute is 14 miles each direction, right around an hour.

    The rest of my body stays warm with my other gear. It’s just my toes that suffer.

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    #1080415
    SurlyTed1187
    Participant

    @dplasters 170607 wrote:

    What kind of distance/time are we talking about here?

    My commute is 14 miles each direction, right around an hour.

    I’ll try to incorporate some of these suggestions. I’ve tried a few of them before, but maybe I was doing them wrong.

    I don’t like the idea of not clipping in over that distance, I like being connected to the bike. My feet sliding around on the pedals for that distance seams uncomfortable to me.

    #1080421
    Swanics
    Participant

    I feel pretty connected with platform pedals with long metal pins. Winter boots and those two layers of socks with the sealskin socks on the outta layer have worked best for me. With this weather I found that I also need to get thicker gloves now!

    #1080429
    Brett L.
    Participant

    @Swanics 170637 wrote:

    With this weather I found that I also need to get thicker gloves now!

    Bar mitts or moose mitts. I can’t recommend them enough. I’m riding around in just some light neoprene gloves and a light shell, and my hands are cozy. And my hands are NEVER cozy in the cold

    #1080433
    Judd
    Participant

    @Brett L. 170645 wrote:

    Bar mitts or moose mitts. I can’t recommend them enough. I’m riding around in just some light neoprene gloves and a light shell, and my hands are cozy. And my hands are NEVER cozy in the cold

    Bar mitts are by far the best piece of gear that I have. Wore midweight gloves today and my hands were warm the entire way.

    #1080441
    Sunyata
    Participant

    @f148vr 170616 wrote:

    perhaps even an aspirin to keep the blood thin and slippery.

    Just… No.

    Anything that thins your blood (alcohol, aspirin, prescription blood thinners, etc) will actually LOWER your body temperature. If you are not medically required to thin your blood, it is definitely not something that you want to do in the cold. Hypothermia is not fun.

    As for the OP’s original question: A pair of good quality mountain bike style platform pedals (with replaceable metal pins) and a nice pair of insulated winter boots (I use a pair of Keens with 400g of Keen. Warm insulation) have kept my feet relatively warm throughout the past three winters that I have commuted full time. I have even done several rather long rides (50+ miles) with them and had no problem with my feet not being connected to the pedals.

    One thing that a lot of people forget about with regards to clipless shoes in the winter is that both the cleat and the pedal act as a heat sink drawing heat away from your foot. If you insist on clipping in (and there is nothing wrong with that), then you will either need to get a pair of winter cycling shoes (I do have a pair of Giro Alpineduro’s that are nice when it is above 20F) or find a way to insulate your foot better from the heat sink. I have heard about people using a layer of foil underneath a thick wool insole. Not sure how effective that is, but it might be worth a try.

    #1080449
    musclys
    Participant

    I tried toe warmers this morning (outside wool socks and thin socks, inside shoes and overshoes). They froze. My toes, yes. But the toe warmers too.

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