What do I need to know about wheels?
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December 5, 2017 at 5:48 pm #1079181
Birru
ParticipantIn my professional opinion round wheels are the best, so go with those.
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Both my bikes have pretty heavy wheels, easily over 2kg per set. My main bike, which is set up for gravel, also has tires that weigh about 1kg in total. I’ve never spun a light set of wheels but I’d love experience it. But since I want strong+light, cheap leaves the equation. Which is why I haven’t upgraded. That said my heavy-ish stock wheels are fine. Since you’re talking about a lovely steel Volpe, I personally think it’s a good candidate for tubeless-compatible wheels and tires with decent width/volume. I think it’s worth investing extra time faffing about with your wheels and tires in the comfort of your home to greatly reduce the chance of having to mess with tires on cold, dreary, rainy day.December 5, 2017 at 5:56 pm #1079182Tania
ParticipantI’ve purchased relatively inexpensive wheels from November Cycles (pacenti rims I believe). They were definitely on the lighter side although not as light as some.
December 5, 2017 at 6:14 pm #1079183Harry Meatmotor
ParticipantDecember 5, 2017 at 6:31 pm #1079184TwoWheelsDC
ParticipantI have a set of Shimano R500 (basically Tiagra) wheels that came with my Cervelo that you can have. I think the rear freehub may not have a ton of life left, but they’re solid wheels. I won’t ever use them again because all my bikes are 11spd at this point and now they’re just clogging up my shed.
December 5, 2017 at 7:20 pm #1079189jrenaut
Participant@TwoWheelsDC 169277 wrote:
I have a set of Shimano R500 (basically Tiagra) wheels that came with my Cervelo that you can have. I think the rear freehub may not have a ton of life left, but they’re solid wheels. I won’t ever use them again because all my bikes are 11spd at this point and now they’re just clogging up my shed.
I may take you up on that, thank you
December 5, 2017 at 7:48 pm #1079191hozn
Participant@jrenaut 169272 wrote:
So I don’t even know what I don’t know about wheels. But I know many of you know a lot and love talking about it, so I thought I’d give you the opportunity.
I do love thinking and talking about wheels! … But only tubeless, disc wheels. And only non-Shimano hubs.
But seriously, I’d just take TwoWheels up on his offer. If you were going to have some built yourself, I’d probably recommend considering the DT R460 rim laced to Hope hubs. It’s a solid rim, tubeless compatible, and very inexpensive. Or Shimano hubs, if you had good experience with those (I haven’t, but I know others like them). $400-500 is probably the lower end of a decent hand-built wheelset.
December 5, 2017 at 10:25 pm #1079202Harry Meatmotor
ParticipantAnd if the freehub is near-death, you can get replacements for about $30.
you’d need to disassemble the hub to replace the hub body (axle vise, cone wrenches, 10mm hex), but it’s really easy to do. throw some new grease in there while you’ve got it apart and you should have no problems getting a brazillian miles out of those hubs.
December 5, 2017 at 11:51 pm #1079209n18
ParticipantHere is a wheel set from Nashbar for $125* if you are willing to wait till 12/29:
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product2_10053_10052_603921_-1
They feature sealed hub bearings, aerodynamic rims, but have 36 spokes both for front and back, so it’s a bit heavy. There are lighter ones with 20 spokes, but they would require more frequent truing. If you can’t wait, here is another option for $180:
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product2_10053_10052_582917_-1
Last Tuesday I ordered parts from them in the early morning, and I received it on Sunday, so it takes 5 days to arrive with the free shipping option.
Edited to add: These wheels have 130mm frame spacing for rear wheels, which is for road bikes. If you have upright hybrid, then don’t order these, look for wheels with 135mm frame spacing. Front wheels always have 100mm spacing for road/Hybrid/MTB, with or without front shock.
December 6, 2017 at 1:07 am #1079212peterw_diy
Participant@hozn 169284 wrote:
$400-500 is probably the lower end of a decent hand-built wheelset.
You do crack me up. For under $300 you can get hand-built wheels from Universal Cycles with Tiagra/Deore hubs, double butted DT spokes, and the ever popular and durable Velocity Dyad rims. Switch to the classic Sun CR-18 and straight gauge spokes and it’s under $200. I’ve been riding XT/Salsa Delgado Cross from them and have been very pleased – round, even, true, no touch ups needed, and they even lined up the label with the valve hole per what must be a Velominati rule. But then I don’t break stuff anywhere near as often as you.
December 6, 2017 at 1:17 am #1079215anomad
ParticipantI had to replace my wheels last year, the rims had run their course like yours. I went decidedly in the heavy duty camp. Kind of the opposite of the wheels Honz would be interested in
Good build quality. I am not the lightest guy and carry a ton of shonky with me to work. Had to tighten up the rear wheel after a couple hundred miles, which is to be expected.
http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222404527/1542/Quality-Wheels-Value-XL.html
The cup and cone bearings on the cheaper shimano hubs are not silky smooth like cartridge bearings. But they are easy to service and last a long long time like Mr. Meatmotor says.
December 6, 2017 at 1:24 am #1079216anomad
Participant@n18 169302 wrote:
Here is a wheel set from Nashbar for $125* if you are willing to wait till 12/29:
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product2_10053_10052_603921_-1
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I have an older model of those wheels on my backup commuter bike. I need the 36 spokes… They are good wheels but have a narrow-ish rim. I like the tire profile of 35c tires on a wide rim. I think I have 32c tires on those and they are about as big as I would go.
I even shifted into the wheel once, in a fit of exhaustion induced clumsiness. Wheel still got me home, but I had to replace 5 or 6 spokes and true everything back up.
December 6, 2017 at 1:32 am #1079218hozn
Participant@peterw_diy 169305 wrote:
You do crack me up. For under $300 you can get hand-built wheels from Universal Cycles with Tiagra/Deore hubs, double butted DT spokes, and the ever popular and durable Velocity Dyad rims. Switch to the classic Sun CR-18 and straight gauge spokes and it’s under $200. I’ve been riding XT/Salsa Delgado Cross from them and have been very pleased – round, even, true, no touch ups needed, and they even lined up the label with the valve hole per what must be a Velominati rule. But then I don’t break stuff anywhere near as often as you.
I’ll concede that when I said “decent” I had something better in mind. But, yes, to be fair a Shimano hub + Dyad wheelset with double-butted spokes should last a long time, assuming that it’s a good build and you do whatever maintenance Shimano says you have to do for their hubs. It’ll be heavy, but Jon said he’d prefer that side of the triangle.
I wouldn’t think anything with straight-gauge spokes would be considered decent. (Or any of the budget Nashbar wheelsets.)
If you get wheels built by a reputable local builder, you’ll obviously pay more. Low-end November wheels are over $500. The Hunt gravel wheelset sounds like a solid value at ~$460.
December 6, 2017 at 2:18 am #1079223TwoWheelsDC
Participant@jrenaut 169282 wrote:
I may take you up on that, thank you
Just let me know. I’m available Sunday if you want to pick them up, but Saturday is not an option, unfortunately.
December 6, 2017 at 2:47 am #1079226Birru
Participant@hozn 169311 wrote:
If you get wheels built by a reputable local builder, you’ll obviously pay more. Low-end November wheels are over $500. The Hunt gravel wheelset sounds like a solid value at ~$460.
Do you know anyone rocking Hunt? As far as I can tell they seem to use Novatec hubs and maybe the same OEM as Pacenti for some of the rims? I’ve been curious about some of their gravel wheel builds.
December 6, 2017 at 2:57 am #1079227hozn
Participant@Birru 169319 wrote:
Do you know anyone rocking Hunt? As far as I can tell they seem to use Novatec hubs and maybe the same OEM as Pacenti for some of the rims? I’ve been curious about some of their gravel wheel builds.
I don’t, no. I’ve read a few reviews and the specs look good. They do look like Novatec hubs, yeah.
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