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  • #1070970
    jrenaut
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    So you’re a Python coder, huh? You should definitely be involved in maintaining the Freezing Saddles website.

    I’m curious how much the weather forecast being wrong will affect your predictions. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like this spring the forecasts have been all over the place and haven’t had much to do with the actual weather.

    #1070973
    chris_s
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    Just wanted to chime in and agree with jrenaut – I think accuracy could potentially be improved by looking not at what the weather actually was, but what the weather was forecast to be. People make decisions on whether to ride or not based on the forecast. So if it says 70% chance of rain, they decide not to ride and so the counts are lower, whether it actually ends up raining or not.

    #1070974
    jrenaut
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    @chris_s 160241 wrote:

    Just wanted to chime in and agree with jrenaut – I think accuracy could potentially be improved by looking not at what the weather actually was, but what the weather was forecast to be. People make decisions on whether to ride or not based on the forecast. So if it says 70% chance of rain, they decide not to ride and so the counts are lower, whether it actually ends up raining or not.

    I appreciate the credit for an idea I didn’t even have – I wasn’t thinking of it that way. It’s probably hard to get historical forecast data, but it would be interesting to compare whether forecast data or actual data is a better predictor of riding.

    My short city commute (5 mile roundtrip to the kids’ school and back home) is probably less influenced by weather than someone with a 20 mile commute (who also has to make a decision about riding a lot earlier than I do).

    #1070978
    dasgeh
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    I wonder whether it’s forecast or actual whether in the morning (or when people leave the house). There’s a cool econ paper in there

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    #1070983
    Judd
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    @dasgeh 160246 wrote:

    I wonder whether it’s forecast or actual whether in the morning (or when people leave the house). There’s a cool econ paper in there

    I think it’s probably a moving target. I ride every day no matter what, but I adjust the timing based on weather. For commuting, I don’t have much choice except leaving a bit later or earlier. On weekends with rain forecasts, the forecast will often change dramatically throughout the day and I adjust timing and duration accordingly.

    #1070984
    jrenaut
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    @Judd 160252 wrote:

    I think it’s probably a moving target. I ride every day no matter what, but I adjust the timing based on weather. For commuting, I don’t have much choice except leaving a bit later or earlier. On weekends with rain forecasts, the forecast will often change dramatically throughout the day and I adjust timing and duration accordingly.

    Yeah but how atypical are you, Hamster?

    #1071023
    georges083
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    @chris_s 160241 wrote:

    Just wanted to chime in and agree with jrenaut – I think accuracy could potentially be improved by looking not at what the weather actually was, but what the weather was forecast to be. People make decisions on whether to ride or not based on the forecast. So if it says 70% chance of rain, they decide not to ride and so the counts are lower, whether it actually ends up raining or not.

    I wish I had access to Arlington weather forecast data back to 2009, but most of the sources just keep actual historical weather. Do any of you know of a data source for historical forecasts? As an economist, I’d love to “borrow” your research idea testing whether forecast or actual morning weather impacts the number of bike rides taken.

    On a different note, I noticed that there is a higher than expected numbers of trips taken on Wednesdays versus other weekdays. Does anyone know why?

    #1071027
    dbb
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    #1071051
    dasgeh
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    @georges083 160295 wrote:

    I wish I had access to Arlington weather forecast data back to 2009, but most of the sources just keep actual historical weather. Do any of you know of a data source for historical forecasts? As an economist, I’d love to “borrow” your research idea testing whether forecast or actual morning weather impacts the number of bike rides taken.

    On a different note, I noticed that there is a higher than expected numbers of trips taken on Wednesdays versus other weekdays. Does anyone know why?

    Wednesday has the fewest teleworkers/flex dayers. If seen a study of federal government workers that indicated as much…

    #1071065
    scoot
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    One nice thing about using actual weather rather than forecast is that there are a lot fewer variables to consider. For instance: Whose forecast? How far in advance?

    I’d be surprised if any forecast source turned out to be a conclusively better predictor of ridership than actual weather measurements.

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