Bike stations along GWMP may not be installed
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May 4, 2015 at 3:08 pm #1029281
mstone
ParticipantThey don’t want humans begriming their scenic expressways. Or a conservative member of congress is leaning on them to support cars more.
May 4, 2015 at 3:14 pm #1029284PotomacCyclist
ParticipantI think it’s the latter. Local representatives need to push back on this. One senator or rep from some Western or Southern state shouldn’t get to decide purely local Arlington/DC matters.
May 4, 2015 at 5:07 pm #1029297PotomacCyclist
ParticipantThe timing of this news is puzzling or odd. It follows the announcement of the deal between Alexandria and the NPS re the Potomac Yard Metro station. Alexandria agreed to pay for improvements and plans for Daingerfield Island, the MVT and other areas along the GWMP.
Maybe there’s no connection, but the timing makes me wonder. Why would the NPS go along with the bike station plan before, but not now? The aesthetics argument doesn’t fly, if that’s an objection. If that’s a problem now, why wasn’t it a problem a couple years ago? The new stations will not be substantially different from current stations.
The stations would be popular. Those stations could attract many local and visiting riders. I know I would use some of those stations frequently.
The NPS should at least state why they are opposed to the plan. The secrecy reminds me of the difficulties and initial obstruction by the NPS when DC proposed to add bike stations along the National Mall a couple years ago. At first they raised the aesthetics argument. Then it was revealed that the problem was the exclusive contact with Tourmobile. Only after it was revealed that the Tourmobile contact had been awarded illegally for decades did the NPS backtrack. They quickly agreed to bike stations on the Mall. The Tourmobile contact was allowed to lapse. It was not renewed.
Is there something similar going on now? They built up some potential goodwill with the Potomac Yard Metro agreement. But now they or some Congressional representatives are trying to sour the situation again. If it is a rep, why do they go on so much about local authority, but they interfere so much in local DC/NoVa matters? I’m speculating here, but we have nothing to go on, because NPS hasn’t explained why they now seem to be opposed to the GWMP stations.
May 4, 2015 at 5:48 pm #1029299Kolohe
Participant@PotomacCyclist 115004 wrote:
I think it’s the latter. Local representatives need to push back on this. One senator or rep from some Western or Southern state shouldn’t get to decide purely local Arlington/DC matters.
NPS has long been a bunch foot draggers (with, now, the sole exception of the Potomac Yard land swap) independent on whomever’s in Congress.
May 4, 2015 at 7:13 pm #1029304bobco85
ParticipantFrom the article:
But now sources inside Arlington County government say the National Park Service wants out. The agency is asking Arlington to find other places to put the Bikeshare stations because it no longer wants them. It is unclear why, and Park Service officials were not available for comment.
Seriously, the writer took that and turned into “Plan To Bring Capital Bikeshare To George Washington Parkway May Be In Danger”? The title also misleads readers into thinking the bikes will be used on the GWP when it really will be the MVT.
At the very least, he put updates due to responses from NPS that say quite the opposite, but really the only news here is that the discussion of station location is underway (good news compared to hearing about NPS’s previous issues with having any bikeshare station at Arlington National Cemetery). The rest is a rumor based on “someone from Arl Co gov’t said something.”
What a terrible article. (My apologies for the negativity, but I hate it when a journalist makes up a story before checking the facts.)
May 4, 2015 at 8:10 pm #1029308PotomacCyclist
ParticipantThere aren’t good alternatives for some of the proposed locations: Air Force Memorial, Cemetery, Roosevelt Island, airport (unless Arl works out a deal with MWAA).
Edit: I just saw the updates to the story. That changes the situation somewhat. I don’t know how long the author/editor of the article waited to hear from NPS before posting the article.
May 4, 2015 at 8:39 pm #1029309chris_s
ParticipantI think most likely if the press hadn’t gotten wind of it, those stations would have gone quietly the way of the dodo and the funds redirected.
May 4, 2015 at 8:57 pm #1029310Steve O
ParticipantWell, tonight’s the ABAC meeting, so we can ask Arlington County staff what they know about this.
May 4, 2015 at 9:16 pm #1029311lordofthemark
ParticipantMay 4, 2015 at 10:20 pm #1029312PotomacCyclist
ParticipantI’m at DCA now. No bike stations yet.
May 4, 2015 at 11:17 pm #1029315KWL
ParticipantI have a Cabi station very very near work. I have a Cabi station a few blocks from my house. Because I’m such a slow-a** rider (and even slower on those Cabi monsters) I really need a station at Gravely Point/National Airport. Good news from NPS tweet.
May 5, 2015 at 2:54 pm #1029342PotomacCyclist
ParticipantI use the Jefferson Memorial or Washington Monument stations as intermediate points to break up the DC-Arlington ride. I have to push really hard to make the entire trip under 30 minutes and even then, I don’t always make it. Now I don’t even bother. I always use one of the other stations along the way to split up the trip.
If you are heading south on the MVT, you could ride over to the Crystal City Water Park and dock at one of the Crystal Drive stations. Then continue south on Crystal Drive and Potomac Ave. to the zig-zag connector to Four Mile Run Trail and back to the MVT.
May 5, 2015 at 5:13 pm #1029354PotomacCyclist
ParticipantReaction from the author of the WAMU article (via The Washcycle): https://twitter.com/MartinDiCaro/status/595283940052729856
“That statement does not address my specific question about the 8 proposed locations already identified.” (referring to the NPS tweet: “The National Park Service is very supportive of providing access through bikeshare to the areas of the park identified in the grant. The park and our partners are beginning the process of identifying specific locations.”)
May 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm #1029359chris_s
Participant@PotomacCyclist 115078 wrote:
Reaction from the author of the WAMU article (via The Washcycle): https://twitter.com/MartinDiCaro/status/595283940052729856
“That statement does not address my specific question about the 8 proposed locations already identified.” (referring to the NPS tweet: “The National Park Service is very supportive of providing access through bikeshare to the areas of the park identified in the grant. The park and our partners are beginning the process of identifying specific locations.”)
Word on the street is that NPS is saying that they are supportive publicly while at the staff level pushing to shift the station locations in a way that either makes them useless or delays them ridiculously.
Stuff like:
instead of bikeshare at the airport, bikeshare in Crystal city right next to the trail connector (90% less useful for reaching the airport)
instead of bikeshare on NPS property at the cemetery, bikeshare on cemetery property (passing the buck…)
instead of bikeshare at Roosevelt Island, more bikeshare in Rosslyn near the trail (90% less useful for bikesharing to Roosevelt Island)
instead of bikeshare at the Air Force Memorial, more bikeshare in Pentagon City (90% less useful for reaching the memorial)May 5, 2015 at 6:12 pm #1029363PotomacCyclist
Participant– Reagan National Airport: Arlington could work around the airport location by agreeing with MWAA on a location on the airport grounds. I don’t think NPS has jurisdiction there. There is space for a bike station next to the parking garage, near the large bike rack location. This would actually be more convenient for cyclists. (There were supposedly two airport bike stations proposed. Perhaps Arlington/MWAA could install just one large station.) The bike station might be visible from the MVT, but c’mon. There is a massive parking garage there. How could anyone object to the visual impact of a bike station when there is a massive, multistory above-ground parking garage, right there. Depending on the exact site, MWAA might have to dig up some grass and flower areas. That would have a minor visual impact. But again, the massive parking garage is there. No one is going to mistake that area for a nature preserve.
This is a view of the parking garage from the GWMP and the MVT. You can see the parking garage, so the aesthetics are already impaired. But you can’t see anything at ground level, so the bike station would be invisible to drivers on the GWMP and to users of the MVT. The aesthetics objection makes no sense for this location:
– Cemetery: I think it would be more useful to have a bike station tucked against the boundary trees of the parking lot at the visitors center. The station would not be visible from Memorial Ave., so NPS would have zero cause for objection on aesthetic grounds. They wouldn’t have control over such a location anyway. But I don’t know if the Army/Cemetery would go for a station in that spot. That area is simply a parking lot. It’s a little cleaner in appearance than a typical parking lot, but I don’t think a bike station would detract more than all the parked cars would. A parked or moving car isn’t natural or serene in appearance either. Plus once you move to the visitors center and walk into the Cemetery, you wouldn’t see the bike station at all. In addition, they just tossed a couple wheelbender bike racks against the row of trees. It looks rather sloppy. The racks aren’t bolted down. When I visited there last week, I could easily push the empty rack around. They don’t seem to be too concerned about the aesthetics of that area as is. If they are OK with loose bike racks in a sloppy arrangement, then why would they object to a neatly placed bike station. If they wanted Arlington to remove the bright photos from the map panel, that would be an acceptable compromise. ARL could also place the map on a side that faces away from the entrance to the parking lot. The empty panel could have something appropriate, such as a welcoming sign to the Cemetery or a photo of some part of the Cemetery. I think this could work.
A view of the parking lot, a bike rack, the entrance to the visitors center parking lot and the row of trees that stands between the parking lot and Memorial Ave.: https://goo.gl/maps/N6AD5
This is the view from Memorial Ave. looking toward the visitors center and the parking lot. A bike station in the parking lot would be invisible from Memorial ave.: https://goo.gl/maps/zwUlW
– The Air Force Memorial is operated by the Air Force Memorial Foundation, which is now part of the Air Force Association. The AFA is an independent, non-profit organization. I don’t think NPS has any official influence over them, but they might have some unofficial influence with them. There is plenty of space on the western side of the memorial grounds for a bike station. It would be out of the way and it wouldn’t affect the viewshed of the memorial or the view overlooking the Cemetery, Pentagon City, the Pentagon or DC. There are cars parked along the Air Force Memorial Drive. I see large tour buses there frequently. A bike station is not going to affect the viewshed or aesthetics of the area more than a massive tour bus will. No one is going to be looking back at that western section or taking photos. A bike station would have no impact on the view or experience of any visitors to the Memorial.
A view of Air Force Memorial Drive. You can see the bike racks off to the right, plus several parked cars. Visitors will not be gazing at the Drive or at the parked cars or at any bike station located there.
– The Pentagon bike station wouldn’t be in a great location, even under the previous proposal (along Army-Navy Drive). I don’t think NPS would have any say over this site in any case. I think the station could still be installed near the original proposed location. Probably in one of the satellite parking lots on Army-Navy Drive. It’s a bit of a walk from the Pentagon transit center (Metro/bus), but not too far. It would be a little more convenient than walking to the existing bike stations in Pentagon City. I’m not too concerned about this location, given that DOD doesn’t seem willing to allow a bike station closer to the Metro entrance. This is a DOD issue, not an NPS issue. Aesthetics wouldn’t be a consideration here. There’s nothing there but plain and drab-looking parking lots and the elevated lanes of I-395.
The overhead view of the parking lots along Army-Navy Drive: https://goo.gl/maps/70dlV
This is the Street View for one of the parking lots: https://goo.gl/maps/s0YOP
This would cover four of the locations (and five of the proposed bike stations). I have visited and walked around all of these areas in the past two or three weeks, as I was scouting out the bike racks for the BikeSpotter website. I’m now familiar with the details of each of those sites: where a bike station could fit and how that would affect the view and experience of visitors to each of those locations.
Two locations might be more of an issue.– The Roosevelt Island alternative would be a problem. I don’t know why they can’t put the bike station in a corner of the parking lot. The cars would block the view of the station from the GWMP for the most part, so I can’t see how there would be any substantive infringement on the aesthetics of the viewshed.
A view of the Roosevelt Island parking lot. The GWMP is elevated above the parking lot. A bike station would barely be visible to any drivers. (Not that it should matter, but the NPS is very hung up on this.) The station would be visible to users of the MVT, but so are all of the cars, SUVs and station wagons in that parking lot. A bike station is not going to alter the aesthetics of that particular section of the trail that much. There are plenty of manmade objects in and around that parking lot.
This is the view of that area from the GWMP: https://goo.gl/maps/53ayd
– Gravelly Point. Either there is a bike station there or there isn’t. NPS can’t really claim that there are good alternative locations. Just as with Roosevelt Island, they can tuck the bike station into a back corner of the parking lot, where it won’t be visible from the GWMP or the MVT. Or if it is visible, it would have only a very minimal visual impact, especially when there are parked cars there. The aesthetics and viewshed arguments don’t make much sense to me on this one either.
A view of the Gravelly Point parking lot. If a bike station were placed on the far end of the parking lot from this perspective, no one would be able to see it from the GWMP or the MVT.
– The final location is “Rosslyn circle.” I’m not sure what this means. Is that a reference to the MVT/Lynn St. intersection area, the Intersection of Doom? If so, that doesn’t seem to be the best place for a bike station. There’s already a bike station near Lynn and 19th, about two blocks away from the intersection. If NPS wants to object to a bike station near the IoD, I won’t be that upset.So I think the NPS resistance may only have a major effect on the Gravelly Point and Roosevelt Island sites. Arlington could make a solid argument that bike stations can be added in the parking lot of both locations with almost no visual impact on the GWMP/MVT viewshed. I fail to see how a bike station would have more of an impact than all of the parked cars, or the boats and boat trailers at Gravelly Point. I don’t understand the environmental objection either, if there is one. People are already biking to those locations, very frequently. There are a lot of parked cars and a lot of visitors. The presence of a bike station isn’t going to change that materially. It’s not as though these bike stations would be sited directly next to the MVT or the GWMP. Even if you consider the CaBi rebalancing vans, there are already many trucks, boats and large boat trailers at Gravelly Point. A rebalancing van isn’t going to introduce a new element there, and the vans won’t be entering the water and polluting the river that a truck might.
I don’t believe there are boat trailers at Roosevelt Island. But Arlington has proposed a new boat launch site somewhere near Rosslyn. Why would a bike station and rebalancing van have more of an impact than a public boat launch site would?
Arlington could relent on most of the locations and focus on the Gravelly Point and Roosevelt Island locations. That’s the strategy I would pursue. In the end, all of the bike stations could be installed in nearly ideal spots (other than the Pentagon location, but I don’t think DOD is going to back off on that one). NPS would “get their way” on most of the locations, when it wouldn’t really matter at most of those sites. This is assuming that Arlington could reach agreements with the other organizations for the Cemetery, Airport and Air Force Memorial. If Arlington isn’t doing so already, they could open up parallel talks with the relevant organizations.
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