Proposed Capital Bikeshare Locations opposed by Bluemont Civic Association – vote

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    arlmom
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    I am a resident in Bluemont, in North Arlington, and I read in the latest issue of the Bluemont Civic Association’s newsletter that there was a resolution put forward at the March 25, 2015 meeting to oppose placement of two Capital Bikeshare stations as supported by Capital Bikeshare, Arlington County, and residents that suggested those locations. I think that opposing the stations is a step in the wrong direction for supporting a bike friendly Arlington.

    Please consider coming to the April 22 General Membership meeting to speak in favor of these Capital Bikeshare locations and voting to support them and oppose the resolution. The meeting is at 7:30 pm at Arlington Traditional School, 855 N. Edison St., Arlington, VA 22205.

    I very much support the proposed locations and hope that others will too.

    Here’s the language on the resolution found in the April 2015 newsletter:

    The Bluemont Civic Association (BCA) welcomes the interest expressed by Capital Bikeshare and Arlington County in locating additional Bikeshare stations within Bluemont and notes that Bluemont residents recently supported such an expansion in its Neighborhood Conservation Plan.
    Notwithstanding that general support, the BCA is particularly opposed to certain proposed Bikeshare locations on N. Harrison Street and along the Bluemont Junction Park for the following reasons.

    N. HARRISON STREET
    A letter, dated March 11, 2015 signed by Mr. Jason Hardin, consultant to Arlington County Commuter Services proposed a Capital Bikeshare Station located on North Harrison Street and Fairfax Drive.

    The BCA is particularly opposed to this location because of the potential safety hazards having a Capital Bikeshare station at North Harrison Street. The potential safety hazard includes traffic obscuration based on the 6’x3’ Bikeshare station marketing and mapping sign from the St. Ann parking lot; the potential safety hazard to the bike renter exiting the bike rack directly onto a heavy residential traffic flow with no bike paths or speed controls except speed bumps placed on North Harrison Street to calm the traffic; the potential safety hazard to the St. Ann elementary school children by increasing access to school grounds by bike renters, short cutting to Custis Trail and; the potential safety hazard caused by a dangerous dip in the road that obscures the full view of the Capital Bikeshare station until the last few seconds traveling south from Washington Boulevard on North Harrison Street between 11th and 10th Streets.
     The BCA is also opposed to the location based on its close proximity to single family residences, the change in the neighborhood appearance, and potential parking complications.
     As an alternative Bikeshare station location to serve the same general area, the BCA suggests that Capital Bikeshare consider locating a station ¼ mile west down Fairfax Drive at the junction of Westover Park and Bon Air Park.
    Therefore,
    Be it resolved that BCA opposes the location of a Bikeshare station on any part of North Harrison Street with particular emphasis at the location close to Fairfax Drive as detailed in the March 11, 2015, letter referenced above to residents of the Bluemont neighborhood.

    BLUEMONT JUNCTION PARK/BIKE TRAIL
    Capital Bikeshare, through an Arlington County Commuter Services consultant, has also advised BCA of plans to install a bike rental station along the Bluemont Junction Trail between N. Emerson St. and N. Jefferson St. With regard to this proposal, BCA calls attention to the following:
     BCA has worked closely with County staff for many years on the use and appearance of the beautiful and unique stretch of the Bluemont Junction Park between N. Emerson and N. Jefferson Streets.
     This stretch of open park is used by many neighbors and Arlington Citizens for many purposes and is one of a very few unbroken open green spaces in any neighborhood in Arlington.
     The bike stations comprise an approximately 45 foot long concrete slab, commercialized signage, and brightly painted metal structure that is inconsistent the with open green space character of the Bluemont Junction Park.
     The stretch of the Bluemont Junction Park between N. Emerson and N. Jefferson traverses a narrow area that is close to single family homes which will be disproportionately affected by the look, use, and truck servicing of the station.
     Neighborhood streets along the Bluemont Junction Park have experienced problems with commuter parking and neighbors are concerned about parking connected to the bike station.
     BCA neighbors have made constructive suggestions and offered to work with BikeShare on reasonable alternative locations, including along Wilson Boulevard, where bike lanes will be created this Spring.
     BCA neighbors are deeply troubled about setting a precedent of installing single purpose infrastructure in the Bluemont Junction Park between N. Emerson open green space.
    Therefore,
    Be it resolved that BCA opposes the installation of a bike share station at any location in the stretch of Bluemont Junction Trail between N. Emerson and N. Jefferson Streets.

    Here’s a link to the newsletter: http://www.bluemontcivic.org/newsletters/BCA_News_201504.pdf

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  • #1028404
    83b
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    Sorry to hear that. Their objections sound very similar to the ones raised by my neighbors to get the Lincoln Park bikeshare station in DC moved to the other side of the park at the outset of the program.

    Those same neighbors are now semi-frequent bikeshare riders.

    #1028405
    rcannon100
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    I have a suggestion of where they could put the station if that neighborhood does not want it :D

    #1028408
    Steve O
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    rcannon100;114061 wrote:
    i have a suggestion of where they could put the station

    ftfy

    #1028411
    bobco85
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    From my knowledge of the Bluemont Civic Association, they are pretty bike-friendly (they pushed for the bike lane reconfiguration for Wilson Blvd between Bluemont Park and Emerson St that will occur when it is resurfaced) but are EXTREMELY PROTECTIVE of the Bluemont Junction Trail green space. That said, I think they could easily use one of the bulbed dead-ends (like on Illinois St) for the bikeshare station without interfering with the park itself.

    For the Harrison St/Fairfax Dr bikeshare station, I agree with 2 points: Westover Park would be good place for a station, and southbound cars speed down the hill on Harrison St (the traffic calming measures haven’t worked). The safety fears for children due to any bikeshare users will be minimal compared to the current vehicular danger.

    I hope both of these stations get built so that the bikeshare network can further expand to the west.

    #1028413
    jrenaut
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    It’s really sad when the argument is “we can’t put bikes there because the drivers won’t stop speeding”.

    #1028417
    Kolohe
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    Bluemont Civic association hated the W&OD connection that went between Carlin Springs Road and Wilson Blvd too.

    They’re implicitly racist for criticizing the proposed location near St. Ann’s when (off the top of my head) Drew, Gunston, and TJ, have bike share stations adjacent to their property. There proposal for relocation it down to Bon Air puts it in the next neighborhood over. So they literally don’t want any bikeshare stations in their neighborhood. (as is revealed by the ‘single family’ characterization, and their history with the Soviet Safeway). (though to be fair, that location could use one too).

    To also be fair, now that Bikeshare is better at balancing the George Mason/Wilson station than it was during the first year or so, there isn’t as big of a need for a station between Kensington and that intersection. I would like to see one closer to the Caboose though, because that’s about the limit of a casual ride from Arlington Mill on Cabi. (and a non-casual ride would be able to reach to the Caboose from Barcroft park (i.e George Mason), or possibly even the Shirlington W&OD endpoint). In any case, there’s a rather visible N-S gap at the current western edge of the system ivo Arlington Forest and Glencarlyn.

    #1028420
    baiskeli
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    @Kolohe 114073 wrote:

    They’re implicitly racist for criticizing the proposed location near St. Ann’s when (off the top of my head) Drew, Gunston, and TJ, have bike share stations adjacent to their property.

    That comment is way way over the top.

    There proposal for relocation it down to Bon Air puts it in the next neighborhood over. So they literally don’t want any bikeshare stations in their neighborhood.

    The proposed location is right on the border of Bluemont. And it doesn’t mean they want no stations in the neighborhood, just not the two proposed.

    I would like to see a station at the end of the trail, in Bluemont Park, which is a heavy destination with parking problems on weekends, but I’ve heard the power lines would interfere with the radio signals. That might be a problem at the suggested Westover-Bon Air Parks location too.

    #1028422
    baiskeli
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    @bobco85 114067 wrote:

    From my knowledge of the Bluemont Civic Association, they are pretty bike-friendly (they pushed for the bike lane reconfiguration for Wilson Blvd between Bluemont Park and Emerson St that will occur when it is resurfaced) but are EXTREMELY PROTECTIVE of the Bluemont Junction Trail green space.

    Well, until CaBi created this dilemma, being bike-friendly and protective of the BJT green space were the same thing. ;)

    That said, I think they could easily use one of the bulbed dead-ends (like on Illinois St) for the bikeshare station without interfering with the park itself.

    Yes, like here:

    https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8729,-77.125266,3a,75y,125.65h,74.98t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shii5wvmp9-o0Wy83ztdolw!2e0

    I hope both of these stations get built so that the bikeshare network can further expand to the west.

    Me too. And maybe there’s somewhere closer to Wilson they can do once the bike lanes are painted.

    #1028426
    Kolohe
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    @baiskeli 114077 wrote:

    The proposed location is right on the border of Bluemont. And it doesn’t mean they want no stations in the neighborhood, just not the two proposed.[/quote]

    The only two stations annotated in the Bluemont neighborhood on the bikeshare expansion map are the two stations they oppose. They didn’t even pretend to make an alternative to the trail one.

    Their stated reason to oppose the stations are
    1) because of the single family nature of the neighborhood – which is all of Bluemont. (except for the slice on the east side of George Mason – which already has a bikeshare station – two if you count the one up by the old Blue Goose).
    2) because of roads with ‘heavy residential traffic’ – with traffic calming devices! – which again, is all of bluemont.
    3) because it would destroy our precious greenspace on the Bluemont trail.

    So, no bikeshare near single family detached, no bikeshare near roads, no bikeshare near trails.

    Clearly, they don’t want bikeshare, despite their “oh, but we SO wanted it in our conservation plan”.

    #1028428
    baiskeli
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    @Kolohe 114083 wrote:

    The only two stations annotated in the Bluemont neighborhood on the bikeshare expansion map are the two stations they oppose.

    Well, yeah, they aren’t going to oppose (or support, or otherwise comment on) stations that aren’t in their neighborhood.

    Their stated reason to oppose the stations are
    1) because of the single family nature of the neighborhood – which is all of Bluemont. (except for the slice on the east side of George Mason – which already has a bikeshare station – two if you count the one up by the old Blue Goose).

    No, the “close proximity” to homes, not just the general nature of the neighborhood.

    2) because of roads with ‘heavy residential traffic’ – with traffic calming devices! – which again, is all of bluemont.

    No, it’s not. Harrison is a major thoroughfare, despite being narrow, because it has a bridge over I-66 and connects to Lee Highway. It’s a legitimate concern, especially at that particular spot.

    3) because it would destroy our precious greenspace on the Bluemont trail.

    As I mentioned above in another comment, before CaBi, protecting the greenspace and supporting cycling were the same thing.

    So, no bikeshare near single family detached, no bikeshare near roads, no bikeshare near trails.

    They didn’t say that either. They were referring to those particular locations.

    Clearly, they don’t want bikeshare, despite their “oh, but we SO wanted it in our conservation plan”.

    I should tell you now that I helped write that original plan as a resident of the neighborhood who has lived directly on the Bluemont Trail for 20 years and who uses Harrison Street frequently. I wasn’t at the meeting where these resolutions were adopted, I haven’t been active in BCA in a long time, and I don’t always agree with what BCA does lately (the Safeway thing was pretty pathetic), but I am very familiar with the exact locations involved, and I can assure you that, while everyone is different, it’s quite possible they are not simply rooted in flat-out opposition to Bikeshare. At least you didn’t try to defend that racism comment though.

    I think you should take the time to listen to neighborhood concerns when advocated bike infrastructure instead of dismissing them, let alone trying to assign motives to them you can’t possibly know. You’ll get better results.

    #1028430
    dasgeh
    Participant

    Yes, this is troubling, especially the references to SFHs. Don’t they realize that they’re getting basically free loaner bikes for their guests, which all the sudden makes it possible for their guests to easily bike up/over to Metro/Ballston/Westover/all the fun stuff that will get their guests off of their couches and out of their hair.

    We heard some grumbling in Cherrydale at first, too, but everyone’s pretty happy about it now.

    #1028432
    jrenaut
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    @dasgeh 114087 wrote:

    We heard some grumbling in Cherrydale at first, too, but everyone’s pretty happy about it now.

    Pretty sure this has consistently been the way it goes. Announcement -> the sky is falling -> oh wait this is kind of nice.

    #1028434
    baiskeli
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    “The Bluemont Civic Association (BCA) welcomes the interest expressed by Capital Bikeshare and Arlington County in locating additional Bikeshare stations within Bluemont and notes that Bluemont residents recently supported such an expansion in its Neighborhood Conservation Plan.”

    Come on, guys. It’s possible to both support BikeShare in general yet oppose a specific location for a station.

    #1028435
    DismalScientist
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    Why doesn’t anyone propose moving the Harrison St. station to the cul-de-sac on Frederick on the Custis trail?

    #1028436
    dasgeh
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    @baiskeli 114085 wrote:

    No, it’s not. Harrison is a major thoroughfare, despite being narrow, because it has a bridge over I-66 and connects to Lee Highway. It’s a legitimate concern, especially at that particular spot.

    Harrison is a great connection for cycling — it’s an alternative to George Mason and not TOO hilly. We take it ALL THE TIME to get to the Lee Harrison shops. Yes, we see cars speed, and cars roll through stop signs. But you know what I see more often? Speeding cars slow down when they see us on a bike. Cars come to a complete and full stop and wait longer than they have to for us to go by. Having people on bikes in your neighborhood is a great traffic calming measure in and of itself.

    Honestly, I get that CaBi doesn’t always get the initial locations right. I can understand if there’s a better location than what’s been proposed. The problem is these resolutions don’t leave logic solutions open. If they really worry about Harrison St, why not just on Fairfax, but at the same corner? Why not something that says “please don’t put the stations in the middle of greenspace, but put them at the end of a dead-end street” — presumably that’s what CaBi would want to do to allow rebalancing, and presumably the neighborhood still wants CaBi to put down new concrete to preserve parking/the ability to turn around at the dead ends.

    These locations smack of NIMBYism. Hopefully, someone has alerted the neighboring businesses to how the neighborhood is trying to screw them.

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