WaPo Article: "In Arlington, winter biking gets a boost with plowed paths"

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    dkel
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    If this example would spread westward, I’d be thrilled. The bit of snow-blowing that was done on the W&OD through Fairfax Co was a good start, but I still avoided the trail on several occasions rather than slog through on studs day after day after day.

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    Terpfan
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    @dkel 107619 wrote:

    If this example would spread westward, I’d be thrilled. The bit of snow-blowing that was done on the W&OD through Fairfax Co was a good start, but I still avoided the trail on several occasions rather than slog through on studs day after day after day.

    And southward into the lesser-liked portion of Fairfax where a few of us live :cool:.

    But, wait, they used a snow blower on some FFX-area trails? Damn it. Why must NPS suck. I just want them to do the MVT from Old Town to Key Bridge. I’m not even asking for south of OT. I’ll figure it out to OT. Just something. Anything.

    #1022367
    dkel
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    @Terpfan 107650 wrote:

    But, wait, they used a snow blower on some FFX-area trails?

    The W&OD was smooth, but definitely not clear. It was a great improvement over last year, but the remaining hard pack stays in some shady spots for days and days after everything else is clear and dry. It means that only the hardiest of souls will use the W&OD even after it’s been “treated,” which isn’t any different than last year, so what’s the point, really?

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    americancyclo
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    @dkel 107656 wrote:

    It means that only the hardiest of souls will use the W&OD even after it’s been “treated,” which isn’t any different than last year, so what’s the point, really?

    It seems to me that at least a small sliver of pavement was passable in shorter time than in past years. Whether that has to do with the snow blowing by NVRPA or the weather, I can only guess.

    #1022379
    hozn
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    Yeah, I think the snowblowing helps that strip melt. Frankly, I am happy with the treatment of the W&OD. Sure, it would be great to never need the studded tires, but if I can get away with only needing them a few weeks of the winter, I am stoked. (Yup, that last sentence probably ensures we will have a wall of snow through end of March.)

    Anyway, it is so much better than prior years, that I really have no complaints.

    #1022382
    Steve O
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    I think they meant “officials,” with quotation marks, at least for the one bringing up the rear.

    Also, where was this photo taken? Somewhere in Arlington?
    [IMG]http://bikearlingtonforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7776&stc=1[/IMG]

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    Tim Kelley
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    @Steve O 107671 wrote:

    Also, where was this photo taken? Somewhere in Arlington?

    Eads Street PBL. Go check it out Steve-O!

    #1022385
    dasgeh
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    @Steve O 107671 wrote:

    Also, where was this photo taken? Somewhere in Arlington?

    I’m guessing Eads Street cycletrack…

    #1022386
    Tim Kelley
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    @dasgeh 107674 wrote:

    I’m guessing Eads Street cycletrack…

    I win!

    (And don’t call it a cycletrack: http://www.peopleforbikes.org/blog/entry/how-smart-language-helped-end-seattles-paralyzing-bikelash)

    #1022390
    rcannon100
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    @Tim Kelley 107675 wrote:

    (And don’t call it a cycletrack)

    Call it a War on Cars Incursion Victory Avenue!

    #1022393
    Vicegrip
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    Thanks to all for getting people to consider MUPs in the same light as roads in Arlington. For people to truly change their thinking from car centric to bike/car or bike/public being able to count on open trails year round is key. Sometimes all it takes is a first step such as has been taken by Arlington. Others can see and use this example to argue the need and follow suit. There are many ways to clear and maintain tarmac and I think that over time the best methods will be found and put into use.

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    creadinger
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    @Steve O 107671 wrote:

    Also, where was this photo taken? Somewhere in Arlington?
    [IMG]http://bikearlingtonforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7776&stc=1[/IMG]

    Also, when was this photo taken? This looks more like fall biking. Not winter. To all the non-riders who look at this picture it makes winter riding look like an easy October mosey to the farmer’s market, instead of the snot covered, red faced, numb toed, ice covered, cold but sweaty mess that winter riding really is.

    #1022399
    dkel
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    @hozn 107668 wrote:

    Yeah, I think the snowblowing helps that strip melt. Frankly, I am happy with the treatment of the W&OD. Sure, it would be great to never need the studded tires, but if I can get away with only needing them a few weeks of the winter, I am stoked.

    I agree with this. But I also agree with this:

    @Vicegrip 107682 wrote:

    For people to truly change their thinking from car centric to bike/car or bike/public being able to count on open trails year round is key.

    If it’s still only those of us who can brave the icy W&OD on studs, then the snowblowing isn’t a victory for cycle transit, which is what the thread is about. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have said a thing, because I love my studs (when I have to use them)!

    #1022403
    hozn
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    @dkel 107688 wrote:

    If it’s still only those of us who can brave the icy W&OD on studs, then the snowblowing isn’t a victory for cycle transit, which is what the thread is about. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have said a thing, because I love my studs (when I have to use them)!

    Well, I figure that people that want to ride [constantly] through the winter simply have to own studded tires. There will always be the mornings that are simply dangerous because of frozen water on the trails. The plowed trails are easily rideable on studded tires, unlike deep snow that has been left on in years past. I guess I see studded tires like lights: you simply have to have them to ride through the winter (unless you have a part-time job [then you mightn’t need lights]). If you don’t have studded tires, you just get a few more rest days than the folks that do.

    #1022408
    rcannon100
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    I don’t ride studs. Having pavement has been huge. Last weekend there was a herd of cyclists that went west from arlington got past gallows – hit ice – gave up and turned around back to arlcos clear trails.

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