commuter bike – road vs. hybrid vs. mountain
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December 22, 2014 at 3:14 pm #1017505
Supermau
ParticipantI’m by no means an expert but having started out commuting on a MTB I’d suggest you stick with the road bike, provided of course that you are actually comfortable and confident with that bike.
I’m riding 14 miles one-way on a Trek FX 7.3. It’s a performance oriented hybrid and it’s proven to be comfortable, sturdy, quick, and reliable. It does however leave me wanting for a true drop-bar road bike. I think there’s always going to be times during your commute where you can appreciate, and take advantage of the faster speed. Then again, being weighed down with gear I don’t know how much of a difference the bike makes.
Anyway. I think the best bike for commuting is the one you’re comfortable with and that suits your needs. How’s that for a non-helpful generic answer?
December 22, 2014 at 3:41 pm #1017506Crickey7
ParticipantI’m a skinny tire fan and a fan of flat or riser bars over drop bars in urban commuting. Disk brakes are non-negotiable in a commuter in my book. I run 700×25’s, but I think anything up to 35 or so works pretty well at keeping rolling resistance and rotational mass down. Good tires will keep flats to a minimum, but you will still get them.
These are largely matters of taste, though. In terms of what works, your current bike will work fine as long as it has a decent wheelset. I have found that budget road bikes (sorry!) often come with wheelsets that will not hold up to the beating urban commuting puts on them, especially when combined with the need to keep a rim brake-equipped wheelset trued.
December 22, 2014 at 3:53 pm #1017507KLizotte
ParticipantI commute from Pentagon City to L’Enfant Plaza on a road bike with drop bars, rack, panniers, and tektro brakes. I use 25mm Armadillo Elite tires which are fairly bullet proof (at most, 1 flat per year). My bike is only a 44″ so fenders won’t fit but the rack acts as a defacto fender. I must admit that I take metro when it is raining hard. Getting into the drops is occasionally useful when the wind is really blowing along the MVT or George Mason bridge. My only regret is not buying a frame that would allow me a greater range of tire width so I could install studded tires. I had to sit out much of last winter for that reason but it was a rare year for snow.
I’d advise commuting for six months to a year on what you have now since the pannier/fenders/rack/lights etc can be easily moved to another bike if need be and they don’t cost much. You need to figure out what route(s) you will be taking, how often you will be riding, your riding preferences (some prefer backpacks, some panniers), whether you enjoy/feel comfortable riding in the dark, etc. After a year you will have a much better idea of how much you will really be commuting and/or riding your bike for other reasons.
December 22, 2014 at 4:12 pm #1017511jabberwocky
ParticipantI’d personally recommend either a road bike or a commuting oriented bike that uses mostly road components (wheels/tires/drops bars/etc). Cyclocross bikes can sometimes be good in betweens; they are largely similar to road bikes but tend to have lower gearing and clearance for larger tires (and these days, disc brakes). Lots of companies also make commuting specific bikes that are heavier duty but more road-ish than traditional hybrids (the Kona Rove or Surly Straggler, for example).
I personally commute on my carbon road bike year round. No fenders, no racks, 23mm slicks, road brakes. Carry everything in a messenger bag. The only thing that forces me off it is ice and snow, where I switch to my touring rig with studded tires.
December 22, 2014 at 6:04 pm #1017519trailrunner
ParticipantI’ve commuted on both road bikes and mountain bikes. I don’t think one is better than the other.
My current daily commuter is an old (1992) mountain bike that I’ve kept alive. I installed racks and fenders. With panniers on the racks, I can haul a lot of stuff, including food for breakfast and lunch, coffee, and clothes. If I needed to, carrying a laptop would be no problem. I’ve even hauled a new coffee maker on the back of my rack.
I’ve also commuted on an old road bike (Lemond Zurich) which was nice and moderately high performance for its time in 2000. No rack, no fenders, 700×23 tires. I’d carry whatever I needed in a backpack or a messenger bag. But when I used that bike, I’d drive in to work a couple of times of week and would haul some of my stuff in my car on those days. The nice thing about that bike is that it was faster and lighter than my old mtb, but OTOH, when I’m commuting, I don’t really care about speed.
December 22, 2014 at 6:22 pm #1017521americancyclo
ParticipantOn a 12 mile commute in to DC I only see about a 5-7 minute difference between my crabon road bike with 25c slicks and an aluminum 26″ mountaining bike with 26×1.5″ tires and fenders. I prefer the road bike for fit and feel though, and the fact that it saves me about 12-15 minutes over the round trip commute.
December 22, 2014 at 6:29 pm #1017523baiskeli
ParticipantWhatever you do, don’t get a bike from Singapore, Hong Kong or North Korea!
Seriously, it depends on comfort. I’d say pick whatever bike is most comfortable, or you won’t want to spend time on it. I used to ride a hybrid, which was okay, but when I switched to a road bike I was happier. An upright bike like a typical hybrid can feel more comfortable on the first few miles, but as you build up, a road bike tends to be better. But everyone is different.
As others have noted, the tires – width and tread – are a big factor in speed and effort needed to ride. You can change out the tires on whatever kind of bike you have and make a big difference instead of getting a whole new bike.
You may find a road bike is harder to handle in city traffic though. I really like the cyclocross-style second pair of brakes on the upper handles of my road bike for when I want to be more upright and handle the bike in traffic. This is what I mean:
I believe they are easy to add to a typical road bike if it doesn’t have them, unless the cables are threaded internally.
December 22, 2014 at 6:35 pm #1017525lordofthemark
Participant@baiskeli 102581 wrote:
Whatever you do, don’t get a bike from Singapore, Hong Kong or North Korea!
Have you ever looked at the Strava Global heat map and checked out Korea? It shows about what you would expect.
On the other hand looking at Belgium shows that culture trumps political boundaries, at least for a social networking tool like Strava.
December 22, 2014 at 6:42 pm #1017527PotomacCyclist
ParticipantOn a shorter commute, speed isn’t going to make too much of a difference. For a 5-mile trip, you might only save 5-10 minutes on a road bike, give or take a couple minutes. I guess that can add up, but if you like riding already, riding an extra 5-10 minutes really isn’t punishment. Plus you said that safety is a priority. I feel much more comfortable on my mountain bike or CaBi than on my light triathlon bike. (I don’t have a road bike, so maybe that feels different from the sometimes unsteady tri bike.) I find that the heavier and more stable the bike, the steadier I am in many situations.
This is particularly true on CaBi. I’ve run into unmarked construction ditches (located right in the middle of roads and crosswalks) while on a CaBi bike. While the front tire lands with a thud and my jaw rattles a little, I remain upright and stable on the bike, because CaBi bikes are so heavy and balanced. I’m pretty sure that if I had been on the tri bike, I would have fallen off or even done a header over the handlebars. It also helped that you can’t ride that fast on CaBi. That lessens the impact of riding over unmarked obstacles. It also makes it easier for drivers and others to see you and avoid accidents (assuming those drivers aren’t texting, which many people do nowadays).
For long commutes, speed is more of a factor in the overall decision. It also depends on which routes you take. Are you going to get stuck at a lot of intersections? If so, speed will be less important than if you are able to ride most of the trip on trails without many intersections and grade crossings.
If you live near a CaBi station, you could try that out and see the pros and cons of the slower but steadier ride. (One significant downside is the full stations in downtown DC during morning rush hour, and empty stations in the evening. Those stations fill up quickly on weekdays and empty out by early evening. Check the Capital Bikeshare website and the Spotcycle smartphone app for current bike/dock info.)
December 22, 2014 at 6:46 pm #1017529TwoWheelsDC
Participant@rose_surfer 102557 wrote:
ok folks, got some great advice from you on where to live. next question – advice on a commuting bike.
at a minimum I’m going to need to add fenders/mudguards, a rack, gator skins, and panniers.
I’d say none of these are strictly necessary. For a while, I didn’t own a bike with fenders (and I no longer keep a rack on any of my bikes), so I was taking the bus on rainy days, which was maybe a couple times a month. Otherwise, I was on one of my road bikes (both carbon and aluminum) + backpack every day. If I needed to carry something that didn’t fit in my backpack, I would just carry it on the bus. Bikes are great, but public transit is also part of the bigger solution, so I’m happy to make use of it.
Anyway, this year I plan to put studded tires on one of my bikes, but last year I just took the bus if it was snow/icy. Considering how expensive studded tires are and how infrequently we get snow here, it’s actually cheaper to just take the bus, but there is value in not being reliant on a motor vehicle in snowy weather.
TL;DR, unless you either have to carry more every day than can fit in a backpack and/or you are absolutely committed to riding EVERY day, you can easily commute with what you already have.
December 22, 2014 at 6:47 pm #1017530ebubar
ParticipantI think you’d be good with the road bike with a rack and maybe fenders. I’ve commuted with various combinations of road/hybrid bike with backpack or rack and panniers. My preferences vary on the storage solution, but the drop bars and position on the road bike are TREMENDOUSLY more comfortable than the hybrid over my 15 miles.
The comfort factor is large enough that I’ve started looking at replacing my hybrid (current foul weather bike) with a drop bar gravel grinder. Riding the fenderized hybrid in rain keeps my Jamis nice, but the ride isn’t nearly as much fun.
Which brings me to another recommendation: if you want another bike (n+1) have you considered a gravel grinder? Something like a Giant Revolt or Anyroad, Specialized Diverge or GT Grade. All have good reviews for combining speed with versatility. All have disc brakes for all weather stopping. Most easily take racks and fenders. These seem to combine comfort of hybrids with performance of road bikes. All of the above will run from 700-1000, so they’re pretty reasonably priced too!
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December 22, 2014 at 6:51 pm #1017531rose_surfer
Participant@PotomacCyclist 102585 wrote:
If you live near a CaBi station, you could try that out and see the pros and cons of the slower but steadier ride. (One significant downside is the full stations in downtown DC during morning rush hour, and empty stations in the evening. Those stations fill up quickly on weekdays and empty out by early evening. Check the Capital Bikeshare website and the Spotcycle smartphone app for current bike/dock info.)
I lived in capitol hill a couple of years ago, and unless CaBi has seriously upped their inventory there were almost never bikes available at my commuting times and work location (Hart building). So that probably isn’t an option for me unfortunately.
December 22, 2014 at 6:51 pm #1017532dkel
Participant@jabberwocky 102567 wrote:
Lots of companies also make commuting specific bikes that are heavier duty but more road-ish than traditional hybrids (the Kona Rove or Surly Straggler, for example).
Straggler FTW!
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Seriously, though, if you’re considering finding yourself the perfect commuter, take your time and do lots of research and test riding. I gained lots of excellent information and advice from scouring this forum. Also, spending a lot of time learning the pros and cons of the bike I was already riding gave me a very specific wish list for my ultimate commuter. I did a few months of research, and ended up with the Straggler, which has yet to fail in meeting my expectations. It’s a dream come true to be able to ride your perfect bike all the time, so don’t rush it. Besides, the process of shopping for the perfect bike is thrilling in itself!
December 22, 2014 at 6:58 pm #1017535dkel
ParticipantNot everyone likes fenders, as apparent from the responses on this thread, but I like them even in nice weather, because they save a lot of wear on the bike! My bike has extreme coverage from my fenders (front in particular) and the whole bike is always really clean, even after riding in the rain and muck all the time. I also have over 3000 miles on my chain, and it shows very little sign of wear or stretching. I think that avoiding grit in the drive train is a great contributor to longevity. Plus I never have to wash my bike.
December 22, 2014 at 7:01 pm #1017536rose_surfer
Participant@ebubar 102588 wrote:
Which brings me to another recommendation: if you want another bike (n+1) have you considered a gravel grinder? Something like a Giant Revolt or Anyroad, Specialized Diverge or GT Grade. All have good reviews for combining speed with versatility. All have disc brakes for all weather stopping. Most easily take racks and fenders. These seem to combine comfort of hybrids with performance of road bikes. All of the above will run from 700-1000, so they’re pretty reasonably priced too!
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I guess i’ve been out of the loop because I’d never heard of them, but they look perfect. When I bought my trek, I originally was tempted by cyclocross bikes but really couldn’t justify the extra expense given that in Florida I ride exclusively on the roads. But if those can really be had for under $1k they look perfect. The diverge elite A1 looks like the closest match to my 1.5 in terms of componentry, etc. After reading a bunch of the posts above, I was kind of sold on the idea of just riding my trek for a while, maybe upgrading the wheels. But those gravel grinders look awfully tempting. I really like the idea that if I need to cut across a path or a patch of grass or something, I can.
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