Why signage matters
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May 20, 2014 at 3:54 pm #1001802
dasgeh
ParticipantWhile we’re talking signs, can someone PLEASE put up some signs along the Bluemont trail? It’s impossible to tell which street you’re riding past/crossing.
Of course, if they could take down the illegal stop signs while they’re over there, that would be nice too.
May 20, 2014 at 5:01 pm #1001826Brendan von Buckingham
ParticipantIf I’m reeeeeeeeeeally sure a sign is illegal, or is a vigilante sign put up by a neighbor with no business putting up a sign, I’ll take it down myself. I stress the reeeeeeeeeeeally portion of that, because http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=4362
May 20, 2014 at 5:08 pm #1001829creadinger
Participant@lordofthemark 85892 wrote:
So, on the days I metro in rather than biking, I like to look from the Yellow line over toward the Mason to see how many folks ARE biking. Did that today, of course there were several in each direction. But then I saw someone on a CaBi bike, going into DC on the Arland Williams bridge – IE the NB lanes of the 14th street bridge, closer to the Yellow. In the general traffic lanes of I395/rte1.
While its possible he was an insane CaBi rider (perhaps misled earlier by construction areas that look like cycle tracks?) I am guessing he got confused somewhere around Pentagon City. I have noted the absence of biking signage on the Pentagon reservation. Its better in Pentagon City, but I guess less than ideal. Its of particular importance to newbie riders, who will lack both local knowledge and the gut street sense (“that CAN’T be the safe bike route) of more experienced riders. I do believe good signage can save lives. What say you?
Your post is the perfect addition to the CaBis in Weird Places thread.
http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?4812-CaBis-in-weird-places/page2&highlight=weird+placesSignage does indeed seem important, however, I also echo that gut feeling/street sense about being where you should not be on a bike.
May 20, 2014 at 5:20 pm #1001833
Steve OParticipant@Brendan von Buckingham 85957 wrote:
If I’m reeeeeeeeeeally sure a sign is illegal, or is a vigilante sign put up by a neighbor with no business putting up a sign, I’ll take it down myself.
A bollard, on the other hand……
May 20, 2014 at 5:41 pm #1001838rcannon100
ParticipantRemove an illegal sign in Arlington ~ get charged with a felony.
Of course, if one were to not remove the sign, but simply take it down and lay it on the ground, that would not be ‘larceny.’ Nothing stolen. Right?
I see that FFX just made campaign signs in ROW and medians illegal!
BTW I do find ARLCO pretty responsive to illegal signs. Try reporting the signs to the appropriate agency.
May 20, 2014 at 10:40 pm #1001868PotomacCyclist
ParticipantA CaBi on 395? Wow. I’d be traumatized if I ever did that on a regular day. (I’ve ridden on 395 during triathlons, run on it during some run races, and walked on it during Snowmaggedon in 2010.)
Second, how can you see the bike path from the Metro train? I take Metro sometimes as well. I usually look at the airport or the monuments (or visualize swimming in the river, where the triathlon swims are held). I do look down at the MVT and East Potomac Park as the train passes over each area. I never thought to look over to the bike path on the bridge. Maybe I need new glasses. (Actually I know I need new glasses.)
May 23, 2014 at 8:26 pm #1002387
lordofthemarkParticipant@PotomacCyclist 86000 wrote:
Second, how can you see the bike path from the Metro train? I take Metro sometimes as well. I usually look at the airport or the monuments (or visualize swimming in the river, where the triathlon swims are held). I do look down at the MVT and East Potomac Park as the train passes over each area. I never thought to look over to the bike path on the bridge. Maybe I need new glasses. (Actually I know I need new glasses.)
I can definitely see the cyclists. I mean having ridden there, and knowing what to look for, its not hard to see them, and even get a rough count of how many there are. Can’t see any details of course.
May 27, 2014 at 11:44 am #1002504scorchedearth
Participant@lordofthemark 85892 wrote:
So, on the days I metro in rather than biking, I like to look from the Yellow line over toward the Mason to see how many folks ARE biking. Did that today, of course there were several in each direction. But then I saw someone on a CaBi bike, going into DC on the Arland Williams bridge – IE the NB lanes of the 14th street bridge, closer to the Yellow. In the general traffic lanes of I395/rte1.
While its possible he was an insane CaBi rider (perhaps misled earlier by construction areas that look like cycle tracks?) I am guessing he got confused somewhere around Pentagon City. I have noted the absence of biking signage on the Pentagon reservation. Its better in Pentagon City, but I guess less than ideal. Its of particular importance to newbie riders, who will lack both local knowledge and the gut street sense (“that CAN’T be the safe bike route) of more experienced riders. I do believe good signage can save lives. What say you?
During my first exploration of the Pentagon alternative route to the MVT (Boundary Channel Drive, LBJ Grove), I was a bit confused by the signage leaving those parking areas so I wouldn’t be surprised if this person made a similar mistake and ended up on the highway.
June 5, 2014 at 6:42 am #1003364Jason777
ParticipantI agreed what is said above!!!
No doubt traffic signs are placed tactically along the road to provide route to riders and people on the road for the objective of keeping traffic safety.I was a bit confused by the signage leaving those parking areas so I wouldn’t be surprised if this person made a similar mistake and ended up on the highway.
Definitely believe that which you stated.
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