Landbay K at Potomac Yards trail (Potomac Avenue and Main Line Boulevard)
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May 4, 2014 at 10:30 pm #1000278
peterw_diy
ParticipantIn the next couple of weeks someone should also be fixing the gaps around the electrical access panels on the officially open segment north of the Route 1 bridge.
May 5, 2014 at 1:38 am #1000282cyclingfool
Participant@peterw_diy 84296 wrote:
In the next couple of weeks someone should also be fixing the gaps around the electrical access panels on the officially open segment north of the Route 1 bridge.
That’ll be nice. I’ll probably still stick to the street, but there were some rough spots on the already open trail segment.
May 5, 2014 at 1:29 pm #1000293bobco85
Participant@CaseyKane50 84291 wrote:
It looks like work is starting on the section of the Potomac Avenue and Main Line Boulevard trail (I haven’t found any reference to a formal name for the trail) that will connect the trail to Braddock Road. I rode on Main Line south of Monroe Avenue this morning and ran into a Miss Utility contractor who was marking out utility lines in the area of the trail. He indicated that work has already begun to mark out the trail.
So far, that trail is shaping up to be very nice. I’m looking forward to them finishing the Braddock Road connection.
I usually take the newly paved section of that trail until it ends and crosses the street (I then take the road). One thing I’ve noticed, however, is that the area around the playground is turning into a miniature Gravelly Point with little kids and/or other people wandering aimlessly onto the trail staring at the minivans/SUV’s they are about to board, not realizing the 200+ lb force of nature coming at them (I slow down, but still).
May 5, 2014 at 2:09 pm #1000298Emm
Participant@bobco85 84311 wrote:
So far, that trail is shaping up to be very nice. I’m looking forward to them finishing the Braddock Road connection.
I usually take the newly paved section of that trail until it ends and crosses the street (I then take the road). One thing I’ve noticed, however, is that the area around the playground is turning into a miniature Gravelly Point with little kids and/or other people wandering aimlessly onto the trail staring at the minivans/SUV’s they are about to board, not realizing the 200+ lb force of nature coming at them (I slow down, but still).
I wish they’d post signs by the playground to watch for bikes and kids. It might help make people more aware that it’s a mixed use trail, and not just pavement in front of the park (which is how many of the parents seem to treat it). It’d also remind bikers to slow down–I’ve seen a few blast through crowds of kids by the park. I’ve begun riding on the street around that area on weekends. The trail is really nice and great for my weekday commute…but the playground is filled with toddlers on Saturday and Sunday. They’re too unpredictable, even when I’m going super slow. So far the parents have controlled their kids around my bike, but I watched a few get knocked over by joggers last weekend, so I’m trying to avoid the path on weekends.
May 5, 2014 at 3:57 pm #1000314CaseyKane50
Participant@bobco85 84311 wrote:
One thing I’ve noticed, however, is that the area around the playground is turning into a miniature Gravelly Point
One of the pluses of Potomac Avenue, Crystal Drive and Long Bridge Drive is avoiding long stretches of the Mount Vernon Trail including Gravelly Point. Unlike at Gravelly Point, you at least you have an alternative to take the street along Potomac Avenue.
May 5, 2014 at 7:13 pm #1000355CaseyKane50
ParticipantCarrie Sanders, from the Alexandria Department of Transportation and Environmental Services (T&ES) has informed me that the trail is known as the Potomac Yards Trail. She said that construction had been delayed due to weather, but expects the trail to be completed by this Fall. Information about the project going forward will be posted at https://www.alexandriava.gov/PotomacYard
Here are a couple of other shots of the trail taken earlier this year.
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September 24, 2014 at 4:06 am #1010536PotomacCyclist
ParticipantThe Potomac Yard developer is installing outdoor exercise equipment along that trail. Might be useful for cross-training, cyclocross training and American Ninja Warrior training.
https://twitter.com/vtspaeth/status/514481066405801984/photo/1
September 24, 2014 at 4:11 am #1010537PotomacCyclist
ParticipantThe new apartment building at the corner of Potomac Ave. and Rte. 1 (Station 650) is scheduled to be completed by Spring 2015. Their website indicates that the building will have an on-site bike shop. I don’t know what that means, whether it’s limited to residents or whether it will be open to the general public.
http://station650potomacyard.com/
September 24, 2014 at 1:46 pm #1010561cyclingfool
Participant@PotomacCyclist 95230 wrote:
The new apartment building at the corner of Potomac Ave. and Rte. 1 (Station 650) is scheduled to be completed by Spring 2015. Their website indicates that the building will have an on-site bike shop. I don’t know what that means, whether it’s limited to residents or whether it will be open to the general public.
The cynic in me says that it’s only going to be available to residents, and the on-site bike shop will be, at best, the equivalent of the Phoenix Bikes vending machine and work stand by the Crystal City Connector.
As for all the other fru-fru $H!T that’s going into this apartment building, if you ever wonder why infill development, TOD, redevelopment/gentrification sometimes meet so much hostility, this is a large part of why. How much more stereotypical can it get than “private pet spa- connect with boutique-style personal service”. Personally, I’d like to see some regular apartments be built sometime… anywhere in Alex/Arl, especially near metro. I’m OK with contractor grade everything if my rent doesn’t have be $2000 a month for a “pet spa” I’ll never use. Ugh… guess I got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning.
September 24, 2014 at 2:27 pm #1010576PotomacCyclist
ParticipantBut the optimist can say that all the new development is why there is now a Potomac Ave., a large park, a bike path along Potomac Ave. and the new trail along Main Line Blvd. to Braddock Rd. That area used to be terrible for cycling, and running, 5 years ago. Much nicer today. (However, the best time was when Potomac Ave. was finished but not yet open to car traffic. It was a 40-ft wide bike path for a few weeks.)
September 24, 2014 at 3:42 pm #1010586lordofthemark
Participant@cyclingfool 95254 wrote:
The cynic in me says that it’s only going to be available to residents, and the on-site bike shop will be, at best, the equivalent of the Phoenix Bikes vending machine and work stand by the Crystal City Connector.
As for all the other fru-fru $H!T that’s going into this apartment building, if you ever wonder why infill development, TOD, redevelopment/gentrification sometimes meet so much hostility, this is a large part of why. How much more stereotypical can it get than “private pet spa- connect with boutique-style personal service”. Personally, I’d like to see some regular apartments be built sometime… anywhere in Alex/Arl, especially near metro. I’m OK with contractor grade everything if my rent doesn’t have be $2000 a month for a “pet spa” I’ll never use. Ugh… guess I got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning.
The reality is that the incremental cost of building and operating amenities is low compared to the incremental rent they can get – and incremental rent for shared space can be well worth it for someone in a relatively small unit, for whom the apt is a substitute for a house that would have had room for exercise equipment (vs a fitness center) room to entertain (vs a clubroom) an outdoor space (vs pool/patio/firepit/grill) etc. In fact many older buildings are adding/renovating shared space amenities (as well as adding other in unit improvements.)
More on topic – its nice that many new buildings are becoming more bike friendly – improved bike parking, and yeah, repair stations since most people don’t want to repair their bike in their apartment.
I really can’t speak to the uses of a pet spa though
Its also nice that the newer buildings are in
September 24, 2014 at 7:09 pm #1010594chris_s
Participant@cyclingfool 95254 wrote:
As for all the other fru-fru $H!T that’s going into this apartment building, if you ever wonder why infill development, TOD, redevelopment/gentrification sometimes meet so much hostility, this is a large part of why. How much more stereotypical can it get than “private pet spa- connect with boutique-style personal service”. Personally, I’d like to see some regular apartments be built sometime… anywhere in Alex/Arl, especially near metro. I’m OK with contractor grade everything if my rent doesn’t have be $2000 a month for a “pet spa” I’ll never use. Ugh… guess I got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning.
Until the market for luxury apartments is sated, no sane businessperson is going to build non-luxury apartments. Every luxury apartment built is one more toward sating that demand. I doubt we’ll get to a point in the DC area where “workforce housing” is built, but if the new construction can successfully sate the luxury apartment demand it should make it difficult for existing older apartment buildings to renovate themselves up into the luxury market because they won’t be able to successfully compete against all of those newer luxury apartments.
September 24, 2014 at 7:12 pm #1010595PotomacCyclist
ParticipantWeWork and Vornado are building the glorified dorm in Crystal City. The micro units will be tiny, more like dorm rooms than traditional apts. A micro unit building is also being added in Georgetown.
EDIT – 223 23rd St. is a different building on the same block. That building is also scheduled for a complete overhaul, but it will be a complete demolition and construction. The WeWork building is an interior demolition project, but it appears that the exterior and the main structure are being retained.
September 24, 2014 at 7:35 pm #1010601cyclingfool
Participant@chris_s 95283 wrote:
Until the market for luxury apartments is sated, no sane businessperson is going to build non-luxury apartments. Every luxury apartment built is one more toward sating that demand. I doubt we’ll get to a point in the DC area where “workforce housing” is built, but if the new construction can successfully sate the luxury apartment demand it should make it difficult for existing older apartment buildings to renovate themselves up into the luxury market because they won’t be able to successfully compete against all of those newer luxury apartments.
I guess I’m just constantly surprised, given the rent asked for in these luxury buildings, that there are enough people making enough $$$ in this area to keep filling those apartments and all the overpriced homes and condos for that matter. And since there are, where the hell did I get on such a wrong track in life so as not to be among them??? :confused:
September 24, 2014 at 8:25 pm #1010607chris_s
Participant@PotomacCyclist 95284 wrote:
WeWork and Vornado are building the glorified dorm at 223 23rd St. in Crystal City.
An interesting project indeed. Vornado was going to just shut the building down, but instead is converting it from an office building to these micro-units with shared kitchen & lounge spaces. Targeted more at contract workers in town for a short-term assignment than actual long-term employees. They haven’t announced the rent yet either. I’ll be interested to see where it shakes out.
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