Drops or bullhorns?
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February 13, 2014 at 1:54 am #993583
Dirt
ParticipantI tend to like drop bars on my fixies. I run a front brake on all of them and I’ve never been very happy with how the brake levers made for bull horn bars work. I do endurance rides on most of my fixies, so I like having the extra hand positions. I need the drops when I point my head into a head wind.
February 13, 2014 at 1:57 am #993584jrenaut
ParticipantI have this exact question for when I have the room for a fixed gear, and I think I’d find myself with the same reaction as Dirt to bullhorns (minus the fixie endurance rides). I look forward to the responses to this thread.
Also I think it’s illegal to ride bullhorns without skinny jeans and a beard. Is that true?
February 13, 2014 at 2:09 am #993588OneEighth
ParticipantI had bullhorns for a while and really liked them especially for climbing but eventually had to switch back to drop bars because my wrists started to hurt.
I used a bar end lever for the bullhorns and was happy with it. Might even have an extra lying around if you need it, neighbor.February 13, 2014 at 2:43 am #993591dcv
ParticipantI go back and forth between drops and bullhorns every few months. I like drops better, it’s not very comfortable without hoods but multiple hand positions trumps for me. Besides climbing and sprinting in the drops is badass.
What are you getting?
February 13, 2014 at 3:03 am #993592TwoWheelsDC
Participant@dcv 77238 wrote:
I go back and forth between drops and bullhorns every few months. I like drops better, it’s not very comfortable without hoods but multiple hand positions trumps for me. Besides climbing and sprinting in the drops is badass.
What are you getting?
Leaning heavily toward a State. Right in my budget and I really like their style/choices. The Matte Black 4.0 is basically sitting in my shopping cart waiting for me to click “submit”, but I gotta decide on the bars first.
February 13, 2014 at 3:08 am #993593dcv
Participant@TwoWheelsDC 77239 wrote:
Leaning heavily toward a State. Right in my budget and I really like their style/choices. The Matte Black 4.0 is basically sitting in my shopping cart waiting for me to click “submit”, but I gotta decide on the bars first.
Nice. Just buy it and get an extra set of bars. You can switch easily if you have cross brake levers, even easier if you don’t have brakes.
February 13, 2014 at 3:27 am #993595vvill
ParticipantHandlebar shapes and sizes can really make a difference to your fit. IMO: riding drops without hoods messes with your fit if you’re used to riding in the hoods. You’ll end up with two main usable positions – the tops, and the drops. If you want to use something similar to the hoods, your wrists end up at uncomfortable angles. My FG came with traditional (non-compact) dropbars and I left them spec’ed like that as I’d never tried them – but now I think I will swap them out. I do use the “elbows/shoulders” position too but it’s not that comfortable. That said, riding FG seems different enough for me that I think I could get used to just having a single lever on the tops.
I’ve never had proper bullhorns, but when I first started riding SS I used a flat bar (with a slight sweep) with bartaped barends, which is similar. pic here. I really liked that setup for climbing (I loved barends when they first came out) but I changed it because I wanted drops – partly for aesthetics but also because I do use drop positions, and because the bars were too wide, so I had excess handlebar sticking out. But I don’t do 60+ mile rides on that bike, and in hindsight I think the “bullhorn” setup was generally more comfortable – although this is also due to the frame being a hybrid, so it’s not a compact road geometry, so the top tube is actually a bit long for me with drop bars, and the drop bars I used aren’t as compact as the ones on my road and CX bikes. Having the brakes on the tops only was never an issue. Oh, another reason I canned barends is you can’t use them in CX races, and this bike fits 32s…
Like dcv said, I would consider getting a set of your favorite compact dropbars and using those with drop bar brake hoods – SRAM makes nice ones for non-geared riders (the 900 which I think Bilsko has, there’s also the 500). Tektro makes them too (I have the RL520 or something similar; the reach is a perhaps bit long).
If you don’t have the budget yet then just pick or the other until you can upgrade. Where’s the fun in getting a stock bike and not changing anything?
February 13, 2014 at 4:04 am #993601TwoWheelsDC
Participant@vvill 77242 wrote:
Handlebar shapes and sizes can really make a difference to your fit. IMO: riding drops without hoods messes with your fit if you’re used to riding in the hoods. You’ll end up with two main usable positions – the tops, and the drops. If you want to use something similar to the hoods, your wrists end up at uncomfortable angles. My FG came with traditional (non-compact) dropbars and I left them spec’ed like that as I’d never tried them – but now I think I will swap them out. I do use the “elbows/shoulders” position too but it’s not that comfortable. That said, riding FG seems different enough for me that I think I could get used to just having a single lever on the tops.
I’ve never had proper bullhorns, but when I first started riding SS I used a flat bar (with a slight sweep) with bartaped barends, which is similar. pic here. I really liked that setup for climbing (I loved barends when they first came out) but I changed it because I wanted drops – partly for aesthetics but also because I do use drop positions, and because the bars were too wide, so I had excess handlebar sticking out. But I don’t do 60+ mile rides on that bike, and in hindsight I think the “bullhorn” setup was generally more comfortable – although this is also due to the frame being a hybrid, so it’s not a compact road geometry, so the top tube is actually a bit long for me with drop bars, and the drop bars I used aren’t as compact as the ones on my road and CX bikes. Having the brakes on the tops only was never an issue. Oh, another reason I canned barends is you can’t use them in CX races, and this bike fits 32s…
Like dcv said, I would consider getting a set of your favorite compact dropbars and using those with drop bar brake hoods – SRAM makes nice ones for non-geared riders (the 900 which I think Bilsko has, there’s also the 500). Tektro makes them too (I have the RL520 or something similar; the reach is a perhaps bit long).
If you don’t have the budget yet then just pick or the other until you can upgrade. Where’s the fun in getting a stock bike and not changing anything?
Yeah, I have a spare set of drops that might work in a pinch, if I decide bullhorns aren’t for me. But frankly, I can’t get past the practicality issue and I think I gotta go bullhorns…and then I can change if necessary.
February 13, 2014 at 11:56 am #993616dcv
ParticipantBar end brakes
Cross brakes
Drops
February 13, 2014 at 12:01 pm #993617Fast Friendly Guy
Participant@dcv 77263 wrote:
Bar end brakes
I love this Lemond! Isn’t this the one you rode on our Sunday ride through Poolesville with Greg B? It must have been some ride home last night in the snow! Hope you were using fatter tires than these!
February 13, 2014 at 12:16 pm #993618dcv
Participant@Fast Friendly Guy 77264 wrote:
I love this Lemond! Isn’t this the one you rode on our Sunday ride through Poolesville with Greg B? It must have been some ride home last night in the snow! Hope you were using fatter tires than these!
Thanks, I love it too. Rode the sscx last night with studded tires, that was overkill for light snow.
February 13, 2014 at 1:46 pm #993621hozn
ParticipantWhen my commuter was a SS (SE Lager) it started with bullhorns. I thought I really liked them, but eventually I also found my wrists getting tired and longed for more hand positions — so I swapped them out for drops and was happier with that setup.
Obviously I can’t compare currently, so one of these other guys can comment better, but I remember finding the drops better for climbing — because they were significantly *wider* than the bullhorns. Maybe you can get wide bullhorns?
Someday when I build another SS, I think I will use drops and the Sram brake levers.
February 13, 2014 at 1:54 pm #993622vvill
Participant@TwoWheelsDC 77248 wrote:
Yeah, I have a spare set of drops that might work in a pinch, if I decide bullhorns aren’t for me. But frankly, I can’t get past the practicality issue and I think I gotta go bullhorns…and then I can change if necessary.
Yeah bullhorns are probably the better choice practically to begin with, since you already have a spare set of drops. Drops without hoods are just track drops (regardless of their actual reach and drop) since you only have the tops or drops to comfortably ride in. I’ve seen the odd bike around town with them angled up a lot but then they look ridiculous and you also can’t really use the drops then!
And this way you won’t be left wondering “what if” – you’ll have experience with drops and bullhorns for future reference. If you angle bar ends up a bit they work a lot like hoods, I think, or bullhorns, I would imagine. (I don’t know about brake positioning, I had my brakes on the tops.)
Funny thing is when I’m riding FG the bar seems less important. I can totally understand why some people just ride with a short stem and narrow flat bar. But it’s not ideal for the hills of Arlington.
February 13, 2014 at 2:13 pm #993627TwoWheelsDC
ParticipantWell, I decided to just pull the trigger. Went with bullhorns for now. They’re 42cm, which is what I have on all my other bikes, so I’m hoping it will be an easy transition. Now the waiting!
February 13, 2014 at 2:41 pm #993628dcv
Participanttrack drops are swept forward so that your forearms / knees won’t hit the bars when sprinting hard (side to side) in the drops. You can’t mount brake hoods on these because of the curve. these usually have deep drops for maximum leverage in sprints.
road drops have straight top bars.
my favorite are narrow (36-38cm) compact road drops:
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