Maybe I’m tougher than I think
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December 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm #987263
mstone
ParticipantWaPo is one of those sites that should just eliminate comments. They are a cesspool of idiocy. E.g., the first top rated comment complains about the lack of stations between EFC & Tysons, and between Tysons & Reston. Have any of the people voting this up ever looked at a map? OF COURSE they aren’t putting heavy rail stations in low density suburbs and/or stream valley parks. The second-rated comment calls for the execution of planners who want livable cities. There’s a pretty big set of people who have a complete inability to think through 100 year infrastructure as well as a frightful disconnection from reality, and a lot of them comment on WaPo.
December 2, 2013 at 4:36 pm #987272TwoWheelsDC
Participant“The reason places like Bethesda are popular is because you can drive and park,”
You mean the same Bethesda that sits atop a Red Line station of the same name? Yep, definitely driveability that makes it popular….
December 2, 2013 at 4:53 pm #987287PotomacCyclist
ParticipantSpeaking of that top commenter on the Post article who calls for shooting smart growth planners, that fits in with other recent articles and comments on other sites where some of the aggressive single-occupancy driver advocates see violence as acceptable if one is driving a car. It’s bizarre really. Some deluded individuals think driving is somehow inherently “patriotic”, even though it burns up petroleum products, thereby propping up worldwide prices and revenues for oil-producing countries, some of whom are among our key enemies and antagonists.
It’s also hypocritical when some of those same people talk about how other cultures have dangerous values because they don’t respect the value of human life. But then they go around and try to run pedestrians, cyclists and other car drivers off the roads, or make hysterical comments about executing transportation planners.
December 2, 2013 at 4:59 pm #987291mstone
Participantyou must be a communist.
December 2, 2013 at 5:54 pm #987293dasgeh
Participant@lordofthemark 70583 wrote:
I think Tysons is going to be a huge battleground for biking advocacy, IMO. I feel a need to ride there just to better know the current biking there for advocacy purposes. So many of the folks kvetching about the redevelopment, the metro, and the need for better auto access/parking live within a mile or two. I dream of them seeing huge streams of folks riding in, and thinking “why can’t I do that?”
I completely agree. Maybe we could get someone who’s more familiar with the area to lead a advocacy tour?
December 2, 2013 at 6:13 pm #987294lordofthemark
Participant@dasgeh 70626 wrote:
I completely agree. Maybe we could get someone who’s more familiar with the area to lead a advocacy tour?
FABB participated in a CSG sponsored walking tour in September. Unfortunately I was unable to make it. I’m not sure if there has been an advocacy ride lately.
December 2, 2013 at 6:18 pm #987295GB
ParticipantI rode to Tysons from Arlington for about a year, and on Friday’s I’d ride via Herndon’s FMCC III. So I’m fairly familiar with the east and west approaches to Tysons. In my opinion it’s surprisingly bikeable. It’s really on the last 0.5 to 1 mile of your trip that is a little dicey to ride on the road. Good news is, that Tysons is so pedestrian unfriendly that the sidewalks are empty and work well when you’re not comfortable on the road.
I’m not at all familiar with the North or South approaches to Tysons but I’d be happy to lead a ride from the W&OD at Clark’s Crossing to the Tysons malls and out to the W&OD / Gallow’s intersection (or the reverse of that). That ride involves some riding on quiet and busy roads (w/ and w/out bike lanes), trails, and sidewalks. I think most cyclist who are comfortable riding around cars will find riding in Tysons better than they expect, I know I did.
December 2, 2013 at 6:56 pm #987297PotomacCyclist
ParticipantEverything I’ve read about Tysons indicates that the authorities do plan to make the area more walkable and bike-friendly, but it will take some time to implement those plans fully. I’ve never biked in that area, so I can’t comment on current conditions.
December 2, 2013 at 7:03 pm #987298creadinger
Participant@TwoWheelsDC 70605 wrote:
“The reason places like Bethesda are popular is because you can drive and park,”
You mean the same Bethesda that sits atop a Red Line station of the same name? Yep, definitely driveability that makes it popular….
Does the guy who said that realize there’s a giant hole in the ground where one of the main public parking lots used to be in south Bethesda? Man, every time I ride up the CCT and see the CARnage on Bethesda Ave I think how un-driveable Bethesda is. I guess he figures wasting tons of money paying to park is acceptable too.
December 2, 2013 at 10:37 pm #987327lordofthemark
ParticipantAnd what do you know, the first commenter on Bruce’s letter is already complaining that if you bike to a metro station (we are talking biking from adjoining neighborhoods – like a mile from the station) in the summer it will leave you drenched in sweat.
Like I said, I am SO FAR ahead of these folks on rule #5, its really heartening.
December 3, 2013 at 3:25 am #987343Kolohe
ParticipantThough, at this rate, the Silver Line may not be open until we all have hoverboards anyway.
December 3, 2013 at 3:33 am #987345PotomacCyclist
Participant@creadinger 70632 wrote:
Does the guy who said that realize there’s a giant hole in the ground where one of the main public parking lots used to be in south Bethesda? Man, every time I ride up the CCT and see the CARnage on Bethesda Ave I think how un-driveable Bethesda is. I guess he figures wasting tons of money paying to park is acceptable too.
I’m kind of scared to walk around Bethesda, although it was just one incident. I was crossing Woodmont Ave. in the crosswalk one evening last year. (There is no light at that intersection.) There was no traffic that I could see for at least 100 feet, so I thought it would be OK to stroll across the crosswalk. Then some maniac comes flying down the road in his car and turns across the crosswalk. He came within a foot or two of caving in my knee sideways. He had his lights on and clearly he saw me at the last moment because he swerved. But then he didn’t even stop. He just swerved slightly to avoid me and continued speeding through the crosswalk and down the cross street!
While my life didn’t flash before my eyes, I did think about how close I came to maybe never riding or running again. Apparently some drivers use Woodmont as a way to avoid traffic on Wisconsin Ave. F#*&%!^ maniacs.
Oh, but I keep forgetting that it’s only cyclists that break traffic laws. Silly me.
NOTE: I was walking through that crosswalk, not riding a bike that day.
December 3, 2013 at 2:20 pm #987364consularrider
Participant@lordofthemark 70662 wrote:
And what do you know, the first commenter on Bruce’s letter is already complaining that if you bike to a metro station (we are talking biking from adjoining neighborhoods – like a mile from the station) in the summer it will leave you drenched in sweat.
Like I said, I am SO FAR ahead of these folks on rule #5, its really heartening.
Well, there are mornings in the summer around here where you’ll be soaked with sweat just stepping out of your front door in the morning. I guess what the commentator really wants is to go from his airconditioned garage to a Metro airconditioned garage in his airconditioned car to an airconditioned Metro station, etc, etc. Tough, life doesn’t work that way.
December 3, 2013 at 2:39 pm #987371mstone
Participant@consularrider 70700 wrote:
Well, there are mornings in the summer around here where you’ll be soaked with sweat just stepping out of your front door in the morning. I guess what the commentator really wants is to go from his airconditioned garage to a Metro airconditioned garage in his airconditioned car to an airconditioned Metro station, etc, etc. Tough, life doesn’t work that way.
haha, hot cars will ruin his day
December 3, 2013 at 2:54 pm #987375americancyclo
ParticipantI’ve only ever biked to the Volkwagen dealer in Tysons from West Falls Church and it’s not so bad. never tried to get to the mall, or an office building, though.
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