Aggressive Driving?
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December 6, 2012 at 1:54 pm #956909
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ParticipantI report it every time I have something substantive to provide (license plate number).
Arlington tries to pretend that they care.
Falls Church doesn’t do as good a job of pretending to care, but seem to feel bad about not doing a good job of pretending.
DC asks what I want them to do about it.
Fairfax County is interested, listens and often does something about it. On more than one occasion they have sent out squad cars at dinner time to talk to people about their driving habits.I
Fairfax County.
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December 6, 2012 at 2:00 pm #956910jabberwocky
Participant@Dirt 37325 wrote:
Fairfax County is interested, listens and often does something about it. On more than one occasion they have sent out squad cars at dinner time to talk to people about their driving habits.
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Fairfax County.
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Agreed. Fairfax county has always taken me seriously when I reported a driver (sent a squad car to my office or house to take my statement and followed up with the driver).
December 6, 2012 at 2:27 pm #956898rcannon100
ParticipantArlington tries to pretend that they care.
Yeah. That’s my impression. There is this really weird relationship between ArlCo and Arlington Police that I dont quite understand.
Good to hear about FFX.
December 6, 2012 at 2:40 pm #956901GuyContinental
ParticipantSo what happened?
December 6, 2012 at 2:47 pm #956903rcannon100
ParticipantOh nothing exciting. There are a number of intersections in Arlington that are known for bad traffic. We all know the intersection of doom. Another one is Lorcum Lane and Old Dominion (aka Lee Hwy). Traffic going South on Lorcum, to go West on Old Dumb – to go to McLean – generally perform a right on red by (a) rolling through the red light and (b) not looking right for pedestrians.
Unfortunately there is a lot of pedestrian traffic here. This is a common route from these parts east to the Custis Trail. But more importantly this is also a way that students get to HBW School.
Even tho this has been marked on the map as a dangerous intersection for decades, nothing ever gets done and there is never police enforcement. In fact, Arl Police set up a trap for illegal left turns at this intersection (see news articles over the past year about Arl Police and quotas – this spot is one of their favorites). But they wont ticket people for making illegal rights on red (that is, without coming to a full stop and without looking for pedestrians). Arlco’s response is they cant do anything about this intersection because too much traffic comes through (????)
The simple answer is the way to stop bad drivers at this intersection is to change poorly designed infrastructure – and much like the intersection of doom – there is little promise of that happening. Which leads to bad things happening.
Cant say I am a big believer in the Arlington Civic Association system, but I think the most immediate solution is to see if I could get my civic association to recommend to ArlCo that traffic calming measures be introduced. Prob is that Old Dumb (Lee Hwy) at this point, just like at the Intersection of Doom, is VA State property – Arlco has no control over Old Dumb (Lee Hwy).
December 6, 2012 at 2:48 pm #956904jrenaut
ParticipantIf you have video, I think you should report it. Even if they don’t care or do anything now, it sets precedent for the future. If enough people complain, they’ll eventually change policies.
December 6, 2012 at 2:51 pm #956915Riley Casey
ParticipantYou could always post the video on line with some editorial content. Cathartic for you and bit of salacious voyeurism for us. :rolleyes:
December 6, 2012 at 3:20 pm #956920TwoWheelsDC
ParticipantSigh…it’s past time to just get rid of right-on-red. It doesn’t save anyone a significant amount of time and it endangers pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers alike.
December 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm #956923rcannon100
ParticipantYou could always post the video on line with some editorial content
To anyone thinking of doing such things, realize that you are exposing yourself to legal action for negligible benefit. If you are going to poke a tiger, be ready for it to bite back.
I have already today sent an email to Arlco another note about the intersection, and I will contact the local civic association. I will also raise this with ArlBAC where I have suggested previously that even tho many of these dangerous intersections are quagmires, the ArlBAC should nevertheless maintain them as priority concerns. (there are actually some positives being talked about for the Circle of Doom)
December 6, 2012 at 4:31 pm #956925Dirt
ParticipantI don’t post up photos of the people who harass me anymore. It does open up a new can of worms. Honestly, I don’t really even talk about them in detail until some resolution has come about. No need to cause myself any extra headaches. I’ve got enough as it is.
December 6, 2012 at 10:07 pm #956972Terpfan
ParticipantThe right on red is also a problem at Slaters and GWP that I run into almost nightly. I probably should report it, I just feel like the frequency of the violation is so high that they would have to run ticketing on it for a month straight to even begin to have any effect. It’s also even a problem on green lights when folks don’t yield to pedestrians in the crosswalks, which is also something I see in the mornings riding by. Not sure whose jurisdiction it is either. NPS or Alexandria City.
In general though if someone does something particularly egregious I think it’s worth reporting, especially if they’re aggressively driving because at least the phone call is recorded and if something tragic does happen then there is a small iota of a paper trail.
December 6, 2012 at 10:58 pm #956973mstone
ParticipantAt Jermantown Rd & Route 50 they don’t even slow down for the no right turn on red sign. Motorists just feel entitled to not have to stop.
December 7, 2012 at 3:40 pm #957003dasgeh
Participant@rcannon100 37338 wrote:
Unfortunately there is a lot of pedestrian traffic here. This is a common route from these parts east to the Custis Trail. But more importantly this is also a way that students get to HBW School.
In my optimistic view, I am hopeful that getting APS to pay attention to such intersections would be helpful for “our cause”. Because of the enrollment expansion and the bus kerfuffle* that started this fall, there’s a lot of public attention right now given to transportation to/from Arlington Schools. APS is starting a Super Committee to look at the issue. I’m hopeful that the school system can work better with the police and the rest of Arlington County to make transportation to/from schools work better. E.g. APS could point on intersections that are particularly problematic for getting students to school (because, face it, you get more sympathy talking about kids’ safety) and ACPD could prioritize enforcement and ArlCo could prioritize efforts to improve facilities at those places.
Oh, yeah, I am applying for one of the “non-parent” slots on the Super Committee (’cause you only count as a parent if you have a kid in school now, regardless of whether you carried a kid around ALL YEAR and pushed him out LAST MONTH). So if you want to nudge some School Board members to support me, that would awesome. My real name is Gillian Burgess.
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