narrow stretch of 4MR along S glebe feels dangerous

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  • October 4, 2012 at 1:08 am #952779
    chris_s
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    I’m 90% certain that South Glebe is a VDOT road so they have control over what happens. In my opinion a fence is the wrong solution – just something else to run into. They just need to reallocate space on the bridge. The north side of that bridge has a PARKING LANE. Bridges cost how much to build and we’re using an 8′ wide section of it for the free storage of private vehicles?! Reallocate that parking lane to the sidewalks on each side and it’d be almost roomy.

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    October 4, 2012 at 3:10 pm #952817
    bobco85
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    What if they provided a white line on the sides of the 4MR trail? It could serve as more of a guideline, providing at least a 5-6 inch buffer between the trail and the edge of the “drop” onto the roadway.

    I can’t find a suitable picture to show this, but an example would be: the new bollards on the south side of the Wilson Bridge in Alexandria have white lines to “guide” you between the bollards that also make the trail seem narrower as you approach them.

    October 4, 2012 at 3:56 pm #952829
    Tim Kelley
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    @Overtone 32796 wrote:

    I guess this a question for Tim.

    I asked around and heard back on this:

    “No, we haven’t considered putting a fence along there. To complicate things, this is a state road and in the catch 22 world we live in, the fenced in sidewalk would not comply with current ADA laws or VDOT shared use path requirements. So instead it stays “unimproved” for now. It’s possible the Four Mile Run master plan addresses this location. I’ll take a look and see if there’s anything positive to share.”

    October 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm #952831
    Tim Kelley
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    Another update:

    “The Four Mile Run master plan (2006) doesn’t get into any real specificity regarding this stretch of trail or the crossing other than to indicate it will be a “promenade” in the future. For more information, here’s the link:
    http://novaregion.org/DocumentView.asp?DID=116

    The subsequent design guidelines (2009) do address the topic of trail design (basically specifying AASHTO and ADA compliant facilities) but does not call this location out as a problem. Here’s a link to the design guidelines, if you feel like passing it along.
    http://novaregion.org/index.aspx?nid=1010 “

    October 5, 2012 at 5:00 am #952910
    Overtone
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    Thanks tim. I’m not surprised.

    John

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