Require cyclists in Arlington to have and use video cameras?
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July 22, 2012 at 2:38 pm #946517
ShawnoftheDread
ParticipantSure, and Arlington can adopt its new motto: ideas so good they have to be mandatory.
You know you live in a bubble when you can seriously suggest that people who can’t afford cars should be required to carry $200 cameras.
July 22, 2012 at 3:00 pm #946518baiskeli
Participant@ShawnoftheDread 26018 wrote:
Sure, and Arlington can adopt its new motto: ideas so good they have to be mandatory.
You know you live in a bubble when you can seriously suggest that people who can’t afford cars should be required to carry $200 cameras.
You didn’t hear? Cyclists are all wealthy elites on $2,000 bikes, wearing snobby Lycra. Don’t you read the Washington Times?
July 22, 2012 at 7:49 pm #946523PotomacCyclist
ParticipantThat forum post is nonsensical.
But on more practical matters, I hope more cyclists use those cameras voluntarily. It can help to provide a deterrence against aggressive, reckless and violent actions by car drivers if they know that they could be filmed while undertaking those actions. It might actually help for some cyclists to use an inexpensive fake camera (similar to fake red-light and security cameras) to increase the deterrent effect.
While all groups tend to break the laws on the roads, the illegal acts by cyclists and pedestrians don’t cause nearly the amount of damage and threatened injury to others that the illegal and reckless acts of car drivers do. If the widespread presence of bike cameras helps to convince more of those drivers to slow down, respect pedestrians who are legally in crosswalks, respect the safety of cyclists who are riding responsibly, stop turning through right turns on red light at high speed and so on, then life will be a little better for all road users.
July 22, 2012 at 10:09 pm #946530MCL1981
ParticipantI have one. It’s great. But the mere thought of making it a “requirement” is completely absurd. We’re not even required to have adequate safety equipment. Requiring everyone on a bicycle to have $400 worth of HD video equipment attached to your head is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard suggested.
July 23, 2012 at 1:37 am #946540rcannon100
ParticipantNot gonna happen. Not even worth responding to.
But to say this. I have a contour roam on my handlebar at all time. It some ways its just psychological. No more he-said-she-said arguments. If someone does something that boneheaded, something is likely to get captured. The confidence that I am going to win the argument, means in some way I can relax a bit more.
We have had a few accidents over the years. Back before digital cameras, we ALWAYS had a disposable camera in the glove box. Whip it out; take some pictures. Over years and years, I cant tell you how fast insurance companies settle when they hear you have pictures. It almost always seems to kill any dickering.
I got hit by a car about 2 years ago. Took pictures of everything. Damage to the bike. Damage to the car. The car’s insurance agent was *very* easy to work with.
Even if you dont mount a camera, always carry one. And if something happens to you or to someone else, take lots of pictures. It ends arguments fast.
July 23, 2012 at 2:03 pm #946560dasgeh
ParticipantWouldn’t it be better to start with getting the police to enforce the laws when they see violations happen with their own eyes?
July 23, 2012 at 2:10 pm #946564pfunkallstar
Participant@dasgeh 26066 wrote:
Wouldn’t it be better to start with getting the police to enforce the laws when they see violations happen with their own eyes?
+1 for having some sort of camera on you at all times – cellphone, polaroid, Leica, what have you. If not for the accidents then for the AMAZING sunrises, random geese, and tourists wearing “Female Body Inspector” t-shirts.
July 23, 2012 at 4:30 pm #946577Mark Blacknell
ParticipantA successful troll from the ARLnow forum, all the way over here? Oy.
July 23, 2012 at 4:45 pm #9465815555624
Participant@Mark Blacknell 26085 wrote:
A successful troll from the ARLnow forum, all the way over here? Oy.
I just thought I’d point it out. Oh, well, I guess I need to dig out my rec.bikes.racing jersey, since it mentions both trolls and Spam….
July 23, 2012 at 5:44 pm #946586DaveK
Participant@5555624 26089 wrote:
I just thought I’d point it out. Oh, well, I guess I need to dig out my rec.bikes.racing jersey, since it mentions both trolls and Spam….
People are still on Usenet? Hang on, let me dial into my friendly local BBS and ask around…
July 23, 2012 at 6:16 pm #946589rcannon100
ParticipantThere’s a troll that lives under the MVT boardwalk under the Roosevelt bridge…
July 24, 2012 at 11:38 am #946629Brendan von Buckingham
ParticipantRequirement? Ridiculous. How about we require them in cars first, umkay? God knows there’s enough bells, whistles, tvs, toasters and usb ports in cars nowadays. Even cameras on the rear to protect your bumper and first born. Why not put a forward facing camera on to to go with the rear camera.
July 24, 2012 at 3:08 pm #946672DaveK
Participant@Brendan von Buckingham 26140 wrote:
Requirement? Ridiculous. How about we require them in cars first, umkay? God knows there’s enough bells, whistles, tvs, toasters and usb ports in cars nowadays. Even cameras on the rear to protect your bumper and first born. Why not put a forward facing camera on to to go with the rear camera.
The commercial where the smiling dad backs his car with his whole happy family out in front of a speeding dump truck until the car senses the truck and stops itself just cracks me up. Seriously? Is this what we’re reduced to? The other one I love is the Mercedes that keeps you in your lane when you’re too stupid or asleep to realize you’re driving on a sidewalk or something.
If you can’t drive, you can’t drive.
July 24, 2012 at 3:17 pm #946675Tim Kelley
ParticipantSpotted in my twitter feed this morning:
I repeat: “I didn’t see him” should be equal to “I admit I wasn’t paying attention, and should never be allowed to drive again.”
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