Increased mileage and recovery

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  • #935565
    PotomacCyclist
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    Maybe you ramped up the mileage too quickly.

    Try to schedule some easy days or rest days on a regular basis. The harder you ride, the more you need to pay attention to rest and recovery.

    Towing the trailer may also be putting a lot more stress on your legs than solo riding would. (I don’t know for sure since I’ve never towed a bike trailer.) My only thought would be to keep the bike in an easy gear when you have all that extra weight. Avoid hills when you are towing the trailer.

    Try to eat soon after any of the tougher or longer rides, preferably within 20-30 minutes. Get some carbs and a small amount of protein too. Try some post-ride stretching. I always stretch after I run but not always after I ride. But I do stretch after tough workouts and long rides.

    Drink enough water throughout the day, although you don’t need to force yourself to drink a set amount.

    #935573
    americancyclo
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    I recommend a rest day, chocolate milk, and massages

    #935577
    Dirt
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    Great thread. :D Lots of good thoughts so far. I’m also happy to see your enthusiasm for doing things by bicycle. :D You are my hero!

    Listen to your body. If you’re getting on the bike, feeling tired and that feeling isn’t replaced with a bit of energy pretty quickly, then you likely need a rest day.

    The two previous posters mentioned things that help you be ready for the next day’s riding.

    Recovery drink: Within 30 minutes of completing your ride, having some kind of recovery drink or food is a great idea. It really makes a huge difference. It gives your muscles what they need to re-energize for the next day. The best recovery drink that I’ve ever had is chocolate milk. I like ovaltine in 2% milk. Skim milk is okay too, but I found 2% works better for me. If I’ve done a really hard day in the saddle, I’ll have 2 glasses. If it is something truly epic, I’ll have 3.

    Eat right: Having a meal that balances lean protein with some good veggies is a good idea for refueling for the next day. Try to avoid stuff that is too fatty, as it slows the absorption of the stuff that your muscles need. Same goes for alcohol, unfortunately. If you can hold off on the PRB (Post-Ride Beer) for 60-90 minutes, it will help the next day’s ride.

    Stretching is good. It makes a difference and helps promote flexible, supple muscles. It also gives you a chance to take inventory of what’s going on with your body. I know that is sometimes hard to do with kids running around. When I was training and caring for a friend’s kids, I made a game of the stretching and got them into the act too. They didn’t really “get it”, but it got them rolling around and goofing off in easily superviseable proximity, which gave me a chance to stretch.

    Figuring out how much rest you need and when is sometimes difficult… even for those of us that have been riding hard for many decades. I use the first 5 minutes when I wake up in the morning to take inventory on how I’m doing. My second waking act is to take my resting pulse. It should be pretty close to the same every day. I slowly get my legs moving and see how they’re feeling as I make my way to the cat food bowl and coffee maker. My legs are often really dogged at this point of the morning, but as I go through my routine, they ease up a bit. If they don’t, I know it is a good sign that I need to take it easy that day.

    The resting heart rate is a big deal. I had one of those “even those of us who have been at it for decades have trouble with this” moments last fall. After a series of really tough weekends I knew that I needed to relax and spend some easy weeks on the bike. I got tempted into doing a few hard rides with friends and kinda skipped the rest and recovery part of my season. One morning I woke up and my resting heart rate was elevated by 7 bpm (beats per minute). The next day it was 10. To make a long story short, it was a sign that I needed some rest… deep, serious rest. I didn’t stop riding, but I cut way back and got rid of all riding with any intensity.

    I know that answers a lot more than you were asking. I thought I’d just share some of what I’ve worked through.

    Have a great week.

    Pete

    #935578
    jrenaut
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    I keep hearing the chocolate milk thing, so I’ll try that. And stretching, too. My diet is pretty decent, though it could be better. I drink too much beer, but usually not for at least a couple hours after riding (Unless I’m riding to the bar). I’ll ask the wife about massages, but I’m not optimistic.

    I wish I could avoid hills with the trailer, but unfortunately my daughter’s school is at the bottom of the big giant hill which my house sits atop. I take what seems to be the best combination of low traffic and not-horrible climb.

    I’ve never paid any attention to heart rate. I guess I should start.

    Anyway, thanks for all the advice. If I know this forum, and I think I do, the advice will continue to roll in, and then we all benefit.

    #935579
    WillStewart
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    #935580
    pfunkallstar
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    I know I’ve plugged them before, but check out NMTI for cheap massages – like $35 for an hour of awesomeness. Also, there is nothing wrong with doing a little self-massage, which sounds kind of kinky but mostly involves getting a piece of PVC and running it down your legs, helps me.

    Just to chime in on the virtues of chocolate milk, it is ambrosia! Although, unlike the Dirt, I prefer Carnation Chocolate Malt. Sometimes I’ll throw a banana in the blender with some 2% and ice and get it all frothy. It is fantastic. Then cat.

    #935582
    Greenbelt
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    I feel your pain this morning, jrenaut. First thing, the weather’s been so incredible this winter that we’re probably all putting more miles than usual. I know I am. It just seems like every day’s a decent day and my bikes start to get all quivering with excitement and demanding to be ridden. They’ve been getting all pouty if I try to take a day off.

    Then, last night I had my first flat of the whole winter. (Serves me right, those tires probably had roughly 4k miles on them, and my commute has lots of gravel and debris and rough pavement in spots — it’s tough on tires.)

    But I couldn’t find the source of the leak, so I just replaced the tube and hoped for the best. But after 5 miles or so on the way home, it started to go flat again. So decision — no more spare tubes or tube repair kit, it’s dark, and I’m about a mile from a Metro stop in either of two directions. So I decided to pump it up again and see if it would hold — maybe I could limp closer to home or to Metro. Worked OK for a while, so I just kept heading home. After about 3 miles, flat again. Pumped it up again and made it 2 more miles. Pumped it up again and made another mile. Finally, got to within a couple miles from home and called for rescue.

    But the bottom line was that after a long week and a big month for January, and then riding home most of the way on an average of maybe 15psi last night, this morning it was a.) way hard to get out of bed, and b.) a leg weary ride in! To top it off, my commute buddy was burning up the trail this morning.

    Maybe we do need a blizzard or something just to get in a few recovery days!

    #935585
    dasgeh
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    If you want to upgrade from the PVC pipe, massage sticks are AWESOME! http://www.amazon.com/Gill-Athletics-Original-Massage-Stick/dp/tags-on-product/B000YDO1NA (I think you can find it cheaper…)

    And chocolate milk is amazing. I don’t even like milk. I don’t even like chocolate milk most of the time. But after a ride or hard workout, it’s silky smoothness is heaven. Though if your kids see you drinking it, they’ll want some.

    #935587
    Dirt
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    I started back getting professional massages every other week. Deep tissue massage hurts like hell, but WOW does it get results. I call it “The Massage of Death”, but it definitely gets the kinks out.

    #935591
    Tim Kelley
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    @jrenaut 14109 wrote:

    Is this just something I need to push through and it will resolve itself, or are there things I should be doing to aid recovery?

    As time goes on, your body and muscles will adapt and it won’t be so hard on you. This may take awhile though, but yes, it does get easier.

    I also wanted to throw in my recommendation for all your self massage needs: http://tptherapy.com/ Check out “The Grid”

    #935606
    jrenaut
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    This seals it – I’m taking a few days off riding. I just did my 3.3 mile commute home, which includes one large hill, but is otherwise not terribly strenuous, and my legs are dead. I’m about to stretch then grab something to eat. I’ll take Metro tomorrow (yuck), take it easy over the weekend, and be back ready to go on Monday.

    #935610
    CCrew
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    @Tim Kelley 14136 wrote:

    This may take awhile though, but yes, it does get easier.

    Have a buddy that’s Cat2. His thought on that? “It doesn’t get any easier, you just go faster” :)

    #935611
    Tim Kelley
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    @CCrew 14158 wrote:

    Have a buddy that’s Cat2. His thought on that? “It doesn’t get any easier, you just go faster” :)

    Your buddy is Greg LeMond? He’s generally attributed to saying that…

    #935618
    KLizotte
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    It definitely sounds like you increased your mileage intensity too soon.

    I recently picked up a copy of Bicycling Magazine’s book on training and they say – if you’ve been off your bike all winter – that for the first 6-8 weeks of getting back into cycling you can only do light rides and very little interval training because your legs need to build up the requisite capillaries in the leg muscles to enable you to train harder later in the season. The capillaries are needed to bring oxygen to the muscles as more demands are placed on them (I wonder if that happens if we try to work our brains more).

    The book also says most people get really frustrated by this base training period and try to do more but that ends up being counterproductive in the end. Please note that your cardio builds up much quicker than your legs. They also mention that one should do weight training to build up one’s legs since cycling alone won’t do it (oddly enough). Also there is the rule about not increasing your time (not mileage) by more than 10% a week else you will burn out.

    If anything, I’m guessing pulling the trailer did it. That’s a lot of dead weight and air resistance to overcome. You will build up the strength and endurance with time though so don’t lose hope!

    #935624
    jpaulwhite
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    Great thread. I am reading this one with great interest. Some days my legs are killing me. Other days they feel fine. I ride the same distance everyday.

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